The cognitive dissonance from 'TWAW' women

These are women who absolutely say "fuck the patriarchy" and "men need to get their house in order, women live with constant harassment and threat of assault" but then applaud "cervix-havers", "pregnant people" and think women wanting single sex spaces to not including males, regardless of identity, are weaponising their abuse ... I don't understand the aggressiveness with which they denounce anyone who has concerns, as if it is literal violence, because it isn't.

OP, cognitive dissonance uses a lot of mental bandwidth. It's very uncomfortable to live with. Someone trying to defend the indefensible gets ... well, defensive. They attack the messenger. Hence getting furious with anyone that points out simple facts like 'males aren't females'. They can't argue the point, they can only rage and fling insults. It plays out so often.

but that transwomen were brought up and socialised as boys/men and therefore have developed male patterns of behaviour.

Could be but it is a pattern shared throughout the world. Probably a mixture of both nature and nurture. Still a really whopping difference between male behaviours and female behaviours though.

I think the fact transwomen share the same crime profile as men doesn't necessarily show male crime is biological in origin, but that transwomen were brought up and socialised as boys/men and therefore have developed male patterns of behaviour.

So if someone is living as a transwoman , their patterns of crime are surely more likely to mirror women's than men's.
I'm disputing the fact that tendency to crime is biological.

Unfortunately according to all crime statistics transwomen share male patterns of criminality
Transwomen's tendency to crime does therefore appear to be biological. Transwomen are male and commit the same types of crimes as other men and with the same frequency.

It’s not just NAMALT, it’s No T are like that

IMO they are so very aggressive and la la la I can't hear you in these arguments as they are basically terrified of no longer being able to live with their cognitive dissonance because your arguments make it unravel, and being forced to be an unwoke pariah with you and your unpopular friends.

These are women who absolutely say "fuck the patriarchy" and "men need to get their house in order, women live with constant harassment and threat of assault"
but then applaud "cervix-havers","pregnant people" and think women wanting single sex spaces to not including males, regardless of identity, are weaponising their abuse.
It really is the hypocrisy that grinds.

Yes, I completely agree. It's batshit. They will actually denounce victim blaming and not believing victims but if you say that you want women only spaces because you are threatened by all males including MTF trans people due to a traumatic experience of male violence you are "weaponising", and they'll nod along to huge misogynists like Owen Jones who say this.

I agree OP. The aggressiveness of which they denounce anyone with concerns is baffling

It’s not even the perma- offended crowd, it’s rational people. People who would defend the right of religious groups to not hold same sex weddings but can’t listen to concerns on this. Institutional capture.

Theyre acknowledging the male violence issue and bringing males into women’s categories but also sending (often young and vulnerable) females into men’s. It’s the encouragement of youngsters into men’s spaces that seems to be so thoroughly overlooked.

And sorry, I don't want the thread to derail. It's about cognitive dissonance, and I'm wasting space probing a separate phenomenon, denial.

"So if someone is living as a transwoman , their patterns of crime are surely more likely to mirror women's than men's."

Read again. As has been said a thousand times. What you think is "surely" true, is in fact false. There is no point having a discussion about what we each assume hypothetical TWs would "surely" do or not do. If you dispute the data, then dispute it with data.

No.

That crime is largely a societal construct as opposed to a biological one.

So if someone is living as a transwoman , their patterns of crime are surely more likely to mirror women's than men's.

And yes, I'm aware there are rapist transwomen in prison. We can't not bloody know about that, because every discussion is pinned on them.

Back to the point of the thread though. I don't understand how someone can believe that TWAW but also give it the big guns about males. I don't understand how the two theories are remotely compatible.

Just went to the link for my local vigil and it states 'the word woman refers to anyone who identifies as such'. I was going to go but I guess they don't care about my safety as I don't 'identify as such'. Fuck this shit.

Violence against women is the central issue here. Violence against TWs is another issue, not unimportant, just not what this thread is about.

Hang on. If they are just as likely to commit a crime as anyone else, can't we just equate them to women?

Looking at reasons and motivations for crime, are any of them biological?

In other words, as is usual practice, can we have an echo chamber.

No, can we focus on the actual topic of the thread. Do you have anything to contribute in a more general sense? Why do you think this cognitive dissonance exists?

The point is not so much that, as a woman, I am afraid of being assaulted by men. The point is that I am much more afraid of being assaulted by a man than I am a woman, and the evidence tells me I'm right to think that way. As a woman, it's (some) men that are a threat to me statistically, not women. When I am vulnerable e.g. I am in a state of undress, I am sleeping, I want to be in a single sex space.

Yes exactly. And the women who parrot TWAW but are tweeting about male violence in the last few days also feel like this. Which is why it's striking that they call us bigots for not exempting a small group of males from this just on their say so.

No problem.