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I've got my paper census - remind me what I do?

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WookeyHole · 10/03/2021 22:32

Having read a thread on here about how to register a protest without upsetting the quality of data collected, I ordered a paper census and now can't find the thread Blush.

Please can someone remind what I was supposed to do? Or should I hang in until after the judicial review anyway? Sorry, I'm struggling to keep up on this one.

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DresdenChina · 16/03/2021 15:42

So what am i supposed to do? i was sent a paper copy though i did not ask for one. I tick sex female and ignore gender box, is there anything else?

LunaHeather · 16/03/2021 14:42

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

This is where to get your paper census form: census.gov.uk

You give your name and address and answer a few other questions. There's still time to request a paper census form -- I requested one this afternoon and was told it would be sent.

Mum and I requested the paper copy via phone about ten days ago

No sign of it yet.

Zeugma · 16/03/2021 14:35

From comments on here I gathered that every adult can request a paper copy, even if they live in the same household. I ordered one and DH also ordered one separately - we intended to fill them both in and include a copy of the letter each.

My paper copy arrived (after quite a wait); his hasn't. He's re-requested one but can anyone confirm that it's permissible for each adult in a household to complete separate forms?

Thanks

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 16/03/2021 14:12

This is where to get your paper census form:
census.gov.uk

You give your name and address and answer a few other questions. There's still time to request a paper census form -- I requested one this afternoon and was told it would be sent.

ThisIsSimplyBeyond · 16/03/2021 13:59

I know what's being done with sex and gender - I just want to know if the supers are putting that under sexuality...? 😄

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 16/03/2021 10:56

I'll give it a try Smile Fingers crossed!

LizzieSiddal · 16/03/2021 10:44

I got mine pretty quickly Mumm, within days. Could you order another one?

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 16/03/2021 10:39

Anyone else had theirs? I ordered a paper one when I had a letter with the code a couple of weeks ago and still not received anything.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 13/03/2021 23:52

I ordered a paper version.

DH (picks up card) shall I fill this in online then?
Me - no I ordered paper
DH - only takes ten mins, why ... ohhhh... are you going to do... some kind or protest?
Me - maybe...
DH - alrighty...

Socrates11 · 11/03/2021 21:45

Paper copy arrived today.

Lol bourbonne that's a great thought.

Good idea to wait until judicial review done next week to see if letter needs to change.

TofuDelights · 11/03/2021 17:41

Placemarking so I can refer back to this when I receive my paper copy - thanks all!

Wearywithteens · 11/03/2021 16:58

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minchinfin · 11/03/2021 16:52

yes, thanks :)

I quite fancy sending the letter as well now so I have requested a paper copy.

bourbonne · 11/03/2021 15:12

Sorry, I muddled the yes/no bit in my post above. Hopefully you knew what I meant!

bourbonne · 11/03/2021 15:11

@minchinfin

Is there a way to answer the census online inline with the GC position or do I need to get a paper copy?
Yeah, the optional question is phrased along the lines of "do you consider your gender identity to be different to your sex?", with possible answers of "yes", or "no, please state".

So the GC way is to simply not answer it. Because we don't recognise the concept.

Manderleyagain · 11/03/2021 15:06

I expect you could send the letter, giving your full details so they can cross reference it?

WinstonsWeirdVole · 11/03/2021 14:59

Argh, I wish I’d done this (I filled in the online version without giving it much thought and simply ticked “female” for sex then omitted the gender question). Well done to all of you actively challenging this madness!

minchinfin · 11/03/2021 14:49

Is there a way to answer the census online inline with the GC position or do I need to get a paper copy?

Manderleyagain · 11/03/2021 12:31

From the campaign site linked upthread:

"Order a paper copy...
Complete it in full and answer the sex question in line with your biological sex.
Then print off the template letter we have prepared and return the letter together with your completed census questionnaire to ONS"

They say fill in sex but not gender identity.

The letter is important because it forces them to register that your sex is to be stored only as sex at birth, and to respond to you.

It also includes this:
"am sorry that that I am unable to contribute to responses to the new voluntary Question 27, because of the way it has been worded. I do not accept that I identify with a gender, so I am unable to respond with either a “Yes” or “No” to the question “Is the gender you identify with the same as your sex registered at birth?”. When you are considering why response rates to this question were not higher, please take cases like mine into account."

I suggest waiting until after the fpfw juducial review next week before printing the letter, in case the campaign letter wording changes in response.

Tempusfudgeit · 11/03/2021 12:11

I just filled mine in. They asked how my 1 year old daughter would define her nationality. Currently she identifies as a Tombliboo, but there wasn't a section for that!

Aha85 · 11/03/2021 11:59

Wouldn’t service provision be based on anatomical sex though? Smears, breast screening etc

They would but what I'm worried about is that if we all tick box about identifying as something other than our birth sex, that could inflate the numbers of people believed to be trans in the U.K. (as they may ignore what we write in the box about gender being a load of bollocks). I can see the TRA arguments that will be coming after the census: X number of people answered that question positively but only ~6000 people have a GRC, so obviously we need to streamline the process and give people more legal gender options.

That's why I'm leaving it blank. I just want the data to be accurate.

Igmum · 11/03/2021 10:30

Thanks for this OP. Another blatant place mark and I will send off for my hard copy of the census today

FemaleAndLearning · 11/03/2021 10:10

I will answer the sex question but on my paper copy write "please record as my biological sex", I think that is the suggested wording.

Gender question I will leave blank.

Religion question tempted to write gender critical. Not keen on identifying myself as a feminist as I don't want any one to think I'm a lib fem!

Hadalifeonce · 11/03/2021 09:47

As I fill in the form, I will leave the gender box empty for all.

bourbonne · 11/03/2021 09:45

I see. Yes, having looked up the wording of the question and the answer structure (as I should have done before asking), I'm inclined to agree.

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