@SunsetBeetch
Andy Ngo is a racist liar, there is no other explanation for this comments on Muslims in London. He deliberately edits his footage and presents information in a way to distort what happened and minimise far right violence. He has doxed left wing journalists sometimes placing their lives at risk given the current state of play in the US. He also clearly has a close relationships that go beyond objective journalism with some far right groups who are openly violent. He is of them, not a Nazi in the traditional sense of the word perhaps, but a man who is fully committed to acting as a propagandist for their movement and the violence it pursues. And if you turn up on the streets with a mob of heavily armed racists who are ready and eager to commit violence and you end up getting hurt then frankly tough shit.
And there we have it. jj DOES think Andy Ngo deserved to be attacked.
Do you have any proof for any of your accusations against him, as listed above?I seem to remember the accusations of him doxing journalists were proven to be absolute bollocks, on twitter. Unless this is a new accusation.
Gibson had apparently learned that members of antifa were planning on meeting up at the NE Couch cidery after the day’s protests wrapped up. He told his followers to meet him them there at 6 pm.
After stepping away from the far-right flag-wavers to relay this information to his livestream followers, Ben temporarily stopped filming. When he switches the stream back on, he’s walking through NE Portland neighborhoods with the far-right protesters and Ngo, the conservative writer. They’re headed toward Cider Riot.
As the group waits, they discuss their weaponry. A few men try to guess which way the wind's blowing to avoid getting "spray" in their eyes, presumably when they use it against members of antifa. Another man holds a thick wooden dowel, and practices swinging it like a baseball bat. A woman carries a red brick in her hand. Some don goggles, helmets, and tactical gloves.
Ngo doesn’t film any of the conversations, and smiles when the group cracks jokes.
It was Ben’s video that helped Portland Police Bureau (PPB) confidently secure arrest warrants against Gibson and five other members of Patriot Prayer who followed him to Cider Riot that afternoon. On August 22, a Multnomah County grand jury indicted Gibson and five other members of Patriot Prayer on felony charges for inciting a riot. Several of the men face multiple charges, including assault and unlawful use of a weapon.
www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside
Is Ngo acting as an objective journalist here? Did who do what any ethical journalist would have done and try to contact police to warn them of upcoming violence? Or is he part of an armed group, intent on violence, in which his role may not to be directly participate in that violence but to act as a propagandist after the event? And does the fact antifa defended themselves make them just as bad?
I suspect the purpose of the both sides narrative is that it justifies any violence, for any reason, if it was met with counter violence or even in this case self defence. That is very convenient to violent far right groups who can mount attacks with an embedded hack who will quite happily present edited footage after the event that attempts to distort what happened and present the attackers as victims. And sadly some people will lap this kind of crap up as this thread shows.