There's been a sticker....

I wonder if the good people of Kirkcaldy will be slightly pissed off that police time is being prioritised for this. Around here if you ring up the police and say a burglary is in progress you'll get at best, a crime number.

I could, ever so slightly cynically, reflect that the political lobby driving this has been known in some manifestos (action for trans health comes to mind) to suggest getting rid of the police service altogether. This is certainly a very good way to get public opinion turned in a helpful direction to that end.

Dearie me. I wonder if he'll be trusted with the highly confidential information of what to look out for in Kirkcaldy.

[quote PurgatoryOfPotholes]In the much awaited sequel to the Mysterious Incident of Greyfriars Bobby the Dog in the Night-time, Kirkcaldy Police are very upset about some stickers.

On Monday 17th May we received a report of controversial stickers having been placed on lampposts within the Viewforth Avenue area of Kirkcaldy.

Should you come across stickers of this nature, please contact ourselves or @FifeCouncil so that their removal can be arranged.

twitter.com/KirkcaldyPolice/status/1395752661375463426?s=19[/quote]
And an MP wants to help as well.

In the much awaited sequel to the Mysterious Incident of Greyfriars Bobby the Dog in the Night-time, Kirkcaldy Police are very upset about some stickers.

On Monday 17th May we received a report of controversial stickers having been placed on lampposts within the Viewforth Avenue area of Kirkcaldy.

Should you come across stickers of this nature, please contact ourselves or @FifeCouncil so that their removal can be arranged.

twitter.com/KirkcaldyPolice/status/1395752661375463426?s=19

So they are terrified over people leaving a polite political message? (I guess minor lowest level vandalism.)

But of course women just have to put up with death and rape threats from some of the trans-rights side.

Found a couple more!

EdinburghFeminist

Fine job there!!’

So the video you linked shows how accepted the trans girl is and how everyone is so happy and relaxed to share their spaces with them.

Yet you also said that you feel for the trans child walking to school who is about "face another day of bullying" by her peers due to not being accepted.

So which narrative is it?

I thought now would be a good time for some more stickers.

Yes.

In all womens sporting fixtures, there are going to have to be two winners lists.

The cheats charter one that the Associations put out - including the Olympics.

And the real one that women and men can support and celebrate - including the Olympics.

How about justice for these women, especially the one at the back denied her place on the podium.

It would be great to get her JUSTICE.

ErrolTheDragon

I put this on the other thread but perhaps more relevant here. Girls are not all happy to have their rights eroded without even being asked. I think this girl, and many others like her, would be very glad to see the women's rights stickers.

Yes.

There is a young, disabled 14 year old - Miss B - taking on the College of Policing.

A brave teenager who is challenging the College of Policing’s Guidance on Hate Crime.

Have a look at allotment. Perhaps some of us here can help her with digging and seeds and borders

There's also this video of a girl swimmer in tears because she's lost the right to get undressed in privacy. It seems that for some people, a girl's opinion only counts when she says yes.
mobile.twitter.com/JVanMaren/status/1196528937259732992

I put this on the other thread but perhaps more relevant here. Girls are not all happy to have their rights eroded without even being asked. I think this girl, and many others like her, would be very glad to see the women's rights stickers.

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18434781.oxfordshire-council-transgender-guide-scrapped-girls-court-case/

[quote Shizuku]Here's a short film in which you can see for yourself how distressed cis girls are about sharing spaces with a trans girl:

It's all right, there's another one. For some reason we're having the same discussion on two threads, I dont understand why.

[quote ErrolTheDragon]This thread may be of interest to many of you, it's not obviously from the title

Women's Manifesto www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4192960-Womens-Manifesto[/quote]
Oh no. I did not get to see it. It’s deleted.

Also worth remembering: if we're talking about 1% of women in the UK - the entire population of trans people is less than 1% and their small number is not regarded as rendering them as a population too small to recognise or provide for. And rightly so.

So even 1% of women can be no less important to recognise and provide for - and I suspect in fact it's a good deal higher percentage than that.

It would also be very easy to knock up a short film that focuses on female people who do have issues and voices and needs that cannot be accommodated in mixed sex provision while excluding any other voices or views.

Frankly it doesn't get us much further. The issue is that we have two groups with conflicting, irreconcilable views and needs, and the only possible solution is parallel provisions. Additional spaces.

But it doesn't matter if 99% of women and girls feel willing and able to share mixed sex spaces when vulnerable or undressed.

What do we do with the 1%? What inclusion and kindness for them? Where's the intersectionality that some women and girls cannot do this because of their needs - as unique and valuable as transness is in any person.

A solution that excludes some females from anything so that male people may have freedom of choice from everything is not a solution. It just reinforces the prejudice and inequality of value and consideration currently considered acceptable to direct towards female people. Solutions have to be found that work for all, and that will have to include retaining single sex spaces for those female people who have no other options.

So the key question is: why is it intolerable that these female people should be allowed this?

This thread may be of interest to many of you, it's not obviously from the title

Women's Manifesto www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4192960-Womens-Manifesto

There is something incredibly phallocentric and colonist about giving women a video about some girls and telling US that is what all girls think and feel and say.

There is something not quite connecting here. Apart from the ‘you people on a parents forum called mumsnet don’t know anything about being a girl’ or is it ‘the right kind of girl, who thinks the right thoughts’.

Really?

Can't wait for the follow up to this. Perhaps I should go on a Canadian forum, and give them a video on what Canadians think, and tell them they're doing it all wrong?