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Tuesday 9th March - could be a big day

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Xanthangum · 08/03/2021 18:01

  1. Helen Staniland and Glinner giving evidence to the Commons
  1. Fair Play For Women VS UK Statistics Authority at Royal Courts of Justice at 10am
  1. The Court of Appeal and Harry/ We Are Fair Cop - The Court of Appeal will examine the validity of the College of Police Hate Crimes Guidance

I wanted to start a thread where any major decisions or outcomes and links to anyone live tweeting or online footage. See you back here tomorrow!

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Xanthangum · 09/03/2021 14:37

Interim Relief Granted.

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Xpectations · 09/03/2021 14:37

@OvaHere

*I think he means legal sex either birth cert or GRC. But not passport as those documents don’t record sex, but gender identity.* (Which is really all a GRC does, but is legally recognised.)

Statisticians can work with that data because there are records of GRC holders. The passport office has no idea (as the recently admitted) how many people have changed the sex marker on their passport.

Granted, it was more of an ‘aside’ comment. I don’t mean to derail.
RozWatching · 09/03/2021 14:37

@FindTheTruth

Judge: There is no dispute that sex is an important demographic variable /74
YES!

And the days of backroom deals and lying to the public about this stuff are OVER.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/03/2021 14:37

Judge: Permission granted to seek judicial review. /79

teawamutu · 09/03/2021 14:37

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Judge: Interim relief GRANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /77
FUCK YEAH!
TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 09/03/2021 14:37

🎉🎉🎉

PearPickingPorky · 09/03/2021 14:37

INTREIM RELIEF GRANTED!!!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/03/2021 14:37

Judge: Order is that Guidance should be changed to read ..... use birth certificate or GRC /78

supercritter · 09/03/2021 14:37

Amazing. 😃

ArabellaScott · 09/03/2021 14:37

Fantastic work FPFW. Congratulations, and thank you. Star Gin

GAHgamel · 09/03/2021 14:37

Well, we may not get everything we want out of this judgment, but the Judge appears to be ever so politely handing the ONS their arses on a plate at the moment.

nauticant · 09/03/2021 14:37

My day will be made if the judge refers to an ONS argument as #SuperSurprising.

PronounssheRa · 09/03/2021 14:37

There needs to be an FOI now to establish who the ONS engaged with which led to the change in position because in February they were clear that the census would record legal sex. Something happened between then and now which changed that position.

Secondly how much taxpayers money and civil service time will be spent to fix this.

WeAreJackieWeaver · 09/03/2021 14:37

Get the fuck in! Well done FPFW

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 09/03/2021 14:37

It is a win on two grounds:-

  1. Data quality - no self determination of sex either birth certificate or GRC.
  2. The concerns raised about institutional capture have again been shown to be justified.
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/03/2021 14:37

Someone needs to remind.me now what "interim relief" means

FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 14:37

Judge: Interim relief GRANTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /77

Bowednotbroken · 09/03/2021 14:37

Thank goodness!

UtopiaPlanitia · 09/03/2021 14:37

Why can’t judges do a TLDR at the start of their judgement Shock Refreshing Twitter while hoping for a final result is so nerve wracking!!!

ArabellaScott · 09/03/2021 14:37

YES! YES!

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 09/03/2021 14:37

Wonderful.

PronounssheRa · 09/03/2021 14:36

Interim relief granted!

Fallingirl · 09/03/2021 14:36

INTERIM RELIEF GRANTED!!!!!

FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 14:36

Judge: ONS's claim that sex can be worked back from the gender identity question is speculative. "Cart tries to drive the horse" /76

Xpectations · 09/03/2021 14:36

@PineappleCakes

I'm not on Twitter so thank you to those who've been relaying the tweets here GinBrew

And of course thanks to FPFW for their hard work and live tweeting ✊

Agreed, thanks to all for updating, and especially FPFW for bringing this case to clarify legal sex.
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