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Tuesday 9th March - could be a big day

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Xanthangum · 08/03/2021 18:01

  1. Helen Staniland and Glinner giving evidence to the Commons
  1. Fair Play For Women VS UK Statistics Authority at Royal Courts of Justice at 10am
  1. The Court of Appeal and Harry/ We Are Fair Cop - The Court of Appeal will examine the validity of the College of Police Hate Crimes Guidance

I wanted to start a thread where any major decisions or outcomes and links to anyone live tweeting or online footage. See you back here tomorrow!

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Helleofabore · 09/03/2021 15:38

Thank you Helen and @Glinner!

Helleofabore · 09/03/2021 15:37

Thank you to FPFW and all involved in this census debacle! FlowersFlowers

CaveMum · 09/03/2021 15:36

Go glinner! He's on a roll right now Grin

WeAreJackieWeaver · 09/03/2021 15:36

I didn’t know Graham and his wife had separated due to the stress of this. That’s really sad. Sad

SeaShoreGalore · 09/03/2021 15:36

Sorry to ask a potentially stupid question here, but... so if the judge is saying that people should record their sex as it appears on their birth certificate, does that not mean that a trans woman could record their sex as female, even though they were born male as they would have their birth certificate changed once they legally transitioned?

So we still wouldn't have accurate figures?

MenopausalCrone · 09/03/2021 15:35

OMG, Glinner is smashing it! He's saying everything that has been said on here for months, years!!

KitchenFairy · 09/03/2021 15:33

@poorbuthappy it worked - thank you!

McDuffy · 09/03/2021 15:33

Graham and Helen are doing well!

FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 15:33

It's starting to hit the press:

about fucking time 🙄

FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 15:32

Glinner said feminists with over 10k followers get targeted and kicked off twitter

nauticant · 09/03/2021 15:32

It's starting to hit the press:

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/swift-campaigners-office-for-national-statistics-census-high-court-b923116.html

Whether progressive publications will want to report it is another question.

poorbuthappy · 09/03/2021 15:32

@KitchenFairy

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/5236fc59-47ae-41c9-93f7-4ea16b5782c3

Try this

MichelleofzeResistance · 09/03/2021 15:31

Thank you so much for the sharing and explaining of tweets, I just read from the start with much nail biting! Hurrah for common sense!

I did particularly enjoy the 'so long as the person who wrote it didn't believe it was false' - hey, the census now apparently involves a Vulcan mind meld! Thank you for your answers, let us check what you genuinely believed at the time you wrote them.....

Nic Williams and FPFW you bloody marvels. FlowersFlowersFlowers If the only point of the census is feelz and image then wtf are we bothering for? Its not like the UK couldn't use all that taxpayer money for something actually productive right now.

mamas12 · 09/03/2021 15:30

Congratulations everyone especially dr nic and fpfw and all of us who dug a little
Thank for doing this and thank you for all the updates

persistentwoman · 09/03/2021 15:29

Stonewall must have thought the census was in the bag when they recruited a NatCen executive as their new CEO. What a mess they've made

Good Point RozWatching. This is the problem - a gravy train that places Stonewall lobbyists into senior position after senior position, all signed up to promoting gender woowoo rather than facts, science and equality.

KitchenFairy · 09/03/2021 15:29

Helen and Graham's live is fascinating

How can I listen to it? I’ve clicked on the link upthread but it didn’t take me anywhere that I could see was obvious to click on!

Thecatonthemat · 09/03/2021 15:28

Congratulations to Nic, FPTW and legal team, and a little teeny bit of pride for having contributed to funding this. Makes me think that really the GRC needs to be abolished for all purposes except for the 5000 who already have it.it is completely unnecessary and does not even mean you have changed sex, except for a legal phrase, and as the data collection is concerned , is a pretty much finite number. Let’s stop this pretence once and for all.

poorbuthappy · 09/03/2021 15:25

Helen and Graham's live is fascinating.

Redshoeblueshoe · 09/03/2021 15:23

And this thread is trending Grin

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 09/03/2021 15:22

@PineappleCakes

I'm not on Twitter so thank you to those who've been relaying the tweets here GinBrew

And of course thanks to FPFW for their hard work and live tweeting ✊

Public information service for all those not on Twitter:

You can still access it.

If you just search “Twitter” you get taken to the log in page, but if you search, for example, “Twitter fair play women” you will get a hit for that Twitter account. And once you’re on the site, you can search for any other account you’re interested in.

You can’t see who has liked someone’s tweets or retweeted them, just the overall numbers, but you can see pretty much everything else.

And you can even see what those who use terfblocker are up to!

HTH! (Not sarcasm!!)

I echo your thanks to all those relaying the tweets on here nonetheless, and of course to Dr Nic and all those involved with bringing this case and getting the word out to the media - FANTASTIC job, all! 💜🤍💚

GrumpyMiddleAgedWoman · 09/03/2021 15:20

I've just read as far as the ONS judgement. PULLLLL!

Impatiens · 09/03/2021 15:20

@stuckinatrap

I think the most jaw-dropping moment was 'sex is an umbrella term.'

If that doesn't cause an incredible number of people pulling 'wtf?!' faces then I don't know what will.

I do so hope they use that argument again!

My god these people are stupid.
lanadelgrey · 09/03/2021 15:19

I can see the claimants have more they can put before a full hearing, but the defendants? Would their barrister be having a quiet word and saying I'm not sure about the weight of your evidence?

Datun · 09/03/2021 15:19

That was my favourite quote too, closely followed by the Judge querying what social sex is!!

Yes, I'd love that to finally have an answer, because that is exactly what gender identity is.