Tuesday 9th March - could be a big day

If it is legal sex then as soon as Labour get into power then we will be back to square one.

One profoundly depressing thing about this Signalbox is that women's rights in this area will remain at risk if Labour get elected to government before they come to their senses over the gender identity ideology. Which could well be years.

FPFW vs ONS full thread unrolled:
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I have contributed to the census legal challenge, and to fpfw general pot on their web site. I seem to remember that nic Williams worked voluntarily for a long time & then said she was fundraising for a salary to be able to continue working on it. Can anyone remember? I'm thinking that fpfw does such stirling work that it would be really worthwhile paying for their time. By paying via the fpfw Web site would I be contributing to that? Or is that separate somewhere else? I realise we can't link to crowd funding.

Glinner

Just got back- trying to catch up.... we won?!? The judge agreed!?! Please tell me I'm not dreaming!!! Just had a shitty procedure done so this is cheering me right up😅

Glinner - thank you. I am a member (yearly paid up) of your site and read everything you create.

Thank you thank you thank you.

This wasn't your fight (except it was, of course) but you're one of the biggest casualties.

Thank you for speaking about this, because I cannot (job, children to feed, mortgage to pay etc).

I am sorry for the toll it has taken on you and I think you're fab.

Wonderful statement from Glinner. I'm very sorry to hear that standing up for women has cost him his marriage. When all this is over Glinner will be a national hero.

How are they going to be enforcing this, then? Or is it about changing the guidance to specify the actual meaning of sex?

When people fill this out, will they be fined for putting their gender identity where their sex should be?

So long as self-ID doesn't become law

This is why the question should relate to birth sex rather than legal sex. I hope this is what FPFW will argue at the JR. If it is legal sex then as soon as Labour get into power then we will be back to square one.

Am I allowed to say there is a "buy Graham a pint" thingy? Link on his YouTube I think.

Not one for Helen though that I'm aware of. No idea how we'd thank her so if anyone has any ideas I'd appreciate it.

They are both very impressive. Graham drew attention to the true parallel of those being shut down are with women, especially Lesbians. The establishment itself is pushing and is captured by an ideology which screws women over. No pretending that the perpetrators are victims here.

I felt really emotional listening to Glinner. Helen is being fantastic too. So clear and straightforward.

Graham and his wife separating will be used to beat him more - of course

@SeaShoreGalore yes someone with a GRC can get an amended birth certificate and would be able to put their GRC sex rather than biological sex - but that's only about 5000 people

A transwoman would need a Gender Recognition Certificate to change their birth certificate but firstly this is how the law was actually intended to operate and secondly only a very small percentage of trans people obtains GRCs (so long as self-ID doesn't become law) SeaShoreGalore.

The Gender Recognition Act is not helpful but government departments operating in accordance with a twisted version of the law as spread by Stonewall is far worse.

Bravo Glinner. Bravo

Glinner - that was fantastic.

FPFW
Thank you so much so great to get this far congratulations!

Currently listening to Glinner’s address to committee- excellent. Linking this back to Stonewall’s refusal to engage in response to the petition asking to lower the temperature and debate. Pointing out that women’s rights are not transphobic and chilling effect of JKR witch hunt. Shaping effect of social media platforms. This is barnstorming. ‘Men are not women’ is not hate speech. Lesbians and women canaries down the coal mine. Discourse and policy is anti-democratically being decided by TRAs. This is a wider problem than social media companies.

Really pleased Helen and Graham are coming from slightly different angles on this. Covering such a lot of ground.

Thanks for this thread OP and to everyone for their updates and contributions. What a day!

Helen has been brilliant. Very calm and clear.

Graham is on fire with his statement, reading it now. I'm sad that he and his wife have separated under the strain. He's a great ally.

In a nutshell Glinner!! He is great!

Switching between Fair cop and Graham. What a day! Grahams statement just now is brilliant.

He is a solid gold fucking hero and I'm in tears listening to him

Yes Jackie :( TRA laugh at him about it on a regular basis