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Educating men about women

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Chriswt · 05/03/2021 16:36

Hi,

I’ve been searching online and on social media platforms recently and have struggled to find any organisations or groups dedicated to the education of boy (and re-education of men) about women.

It’s so sad that there needs to exist a huge number of charities and support groups for women but I can’t find anything male orientated or encourages male engagement.

I may not be looking hard enough but I’d would welcome information from anyone who knows of groups focusing on education for men.

Thank you in advance

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Chriswt · 05/03/2021 17:43

[quote TheRabbitOfCaerbannog]This is the programme featuring Jackson Katz...

Positive Thinking: How to Stop Men Hurting Women

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000sr3p[/quote]
Thank you 😊

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Chriswt · 05/03/2021 17:42

@EBearhug

We've got a Men As Allies initiative going on at work just now.

I do believe we can't reach equality without men on board, particularly in those workplaces (as mine) where they are the majority. I'm not convinced this initiative will make the difference; it's mostly preaching to the converted, though even many if those don't get it. But it's all the men out there who don't think they need to do anything, that everything's all sorted, and as long as they're not actively groping a colleague by the photocopier, they're good enough. They don't think about the assumptions they've made that really affect women's careers, like assuming Sarah won't want to travel because she's got children, or that Claire won't want to bother with that promotion, because she's at the age she'll be thinking about starting a family, all that sort of crap, where they don't ask but assume, and Claire and Sarah are just left there wondering why Dave got sent on the Frankfurt job, when she knows most about the account, and why useless Kevin got promoted, and what the hell else can they do to prove they're good enough? Meanwhile, the men are patting themselves on the back just for having a woman in the department at all.

Couldn’t agree with you more. But this shouldn’t start at the work place it should start at schools.

I have two young daughters and am always championing strong female role models for them to admire and teaching them their value in society.

I now have a little boy (18 months) and though my partner will make damn sure he’s a feminist to the core I still am sad to find that there is little out there demonstrating and encouraging men’s respect and understanding towards women.

At ages 9 and 6 my daughters don’t even bat an eye lid at the idea of same sex marriage or meeting my bothers boyfriend yet they will still come out with lines like “boys are stronger than girls” or “boys are faster than girls” etc.

This needs to change just like our attitude to sexuality and race Smile

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Chriswt · 05/03/2021 17:34

@The4Seasons

Jackson Katz was on Radio 4 this week doing something like this. I thought it was quite good.
Thank you so much, I’ll give that a listen, and it looks like there are plenty of other books and videos from him on the internet for me to read and/or listen too. Smile
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Longtalljosie · 05/03/2021 17:34

goodmenproject.com/

EBearhug · 05/03/2021 17:33

We've got a Men As Allies initiative going on at work just now.

I do believe we can't reach equality without men on board, particularly in those workplaces (as mine) where they are the majority. I'm not convinced this initiative will make the difference; it's mostly preaching to the converted, though even many if those don't get it. But it's all the men out there who don't think they need to do anything, that everything's all sorted, and as long as they're not actively groping a colleague by the photocopier, they're good enough. They don't think about the assumptions they've made that really affect women's careers, like assuming Sarah won't want to travel because she's got children, or that Claire won't want to bother with that promotion, because she's at the age she'll be thinking about starting a family, all that sort of crap, where they don't ask but assume, and Claire and Sarah are just left there wondering why Dave got sent on the Frankfurt job, when she knows most about the account, and why useless Kevin got promoted, and what the hell else can they do to prove they're good enough? Meanwhile, the men are patting themselves on the back just for having a woman in the department at all.

TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 05/03/2021 17:29

This is the programme featuring Jackson Katz...

Positive Thinking: How to Stop Men Hurting Women

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000sr3p

The4Seasons · 05/03/2021 17:26

Jackson Katz was on Radio 4 this week doing something like this. I thought it was quite good.

Regularsizedrudy · 05/03/2021 17:03

Hmmm

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Chriswt · 05/03/2021 17:01

@Ereshkigalangcleg

Michael Conroy, who Kokatsu mentioned and I have linked to, does this.
Thanks, yes it’s a start and already seems to be showing me what I suspected.

This is for supporting men in professions teaching males about sexual violence etc.

Men have a responsibility to educate themselves and their depends and so I am interested in what resources are available other than reading books.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/03/2021 16:54

Michael Conroy, who Kokatsu mentioned and I have linked to, does this.

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Chriswt · 05/03/2021 16:54

Kotatsu,

Thank you for your reply Smile

I’m not looking for support for me, I’m looking for information about pressure groups or organisations focusing on the re-educate men about feminism. Sorry if my OP wasn’t very well worded.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/03/2021 16:53

Michael Conroy on Twitter

mobile.twitter.com/MenAtWork_MC

His website menatworkcic.org/

Kotatsu · 05/03/2021 16:48

With the best will in the world - this is a feminist board - have you considered asking this somewhere where there are more men who might know about this stuff?

I know there's a guy on twitter - Michael something I think (I want to say Conrad, but I don't think that's it), from the UK who runs some kind of men's support thing, and I know there's a few mens mental health support groups, but TBH, for mens things, you're probably better asking men.