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Supernanny - hanging out with the abusive dads

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Jeanhatchet · 04/03/2021 07:24

Jo Frost (Supernanny) has begun advocating for the inclusion of "parental alienation" in the Domestic Abuse Bill alongside the vicious men who continue to abuse their ex partners by alleging this in court. On Twitter she is openly engaging with some of the men who regularly stalk, dox and abuse women opposing the term.

It is a term with no validity. It has been rejected by the WHO as a term for abuse.

Women do experience men turning their kids against them but .... that is part of an ongoing pattern of coercive control and abuse. They are covered in law already at 3.1. 76. Serious Crime Act 2015.

Supernanny is not on the side of women. When women disclose to Family court that they've suffered domestic abuse ... their abusers are learning to use "parental alienation" as a counter accusation. It must not become part of the Domestic Abuse Bill. These are dangerous men.

I wrote about the whole thing here if you want a look. www.jeanhatchet.com/post/supernanny-putting-women-on-the-naughty-step

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tootyfruitypickle · 04/03/2021 07:48

The parental alienation term is a massive issue and is used by abusers to continue to control. I absolutely condemn anyone who supports the idea of this term. I've had my own experience on the wrong side of this and it meant I allowed dd to keep seeing my abusive ex even though he was horrendous to her. She won't see him now she's a teenager . I realised it was important I validate her experiences - I couldn't do this when she was young and I was worrying about being accused of PA -
Imagine how confusing that is for a child .

Greenmarmalade · 04/03/2021 07:48

I agree. Women and children are often hounded in the courts by a man they have struggled to leave- they should be free at last, but the courts facilitate further abuse.

Jeanhatchet · 04/03/2021 07:47

@Blueberries0112 then those aren't the men I'm referring to.

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Jeanhatchet · 04/03/2021 07:46

@Mumteedum I understand you have men in your life who feel they haven't been fairly treated ..... but ....

The term as used by men in court is very damaging and backed by a worryingly dedicated, financially incentivised, growing number of therapeutic industry professionals. This is never going to be good for women who want to protect themselves and their children from further harm. If women allege domestic abuse they should be heard.

For me - if a man starts claiming his ex is crazy and keeps his kids from him ... I acknowledge that red flag. He's pretty much done with me at that point whomever he is.

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Blueberries0112 · 04/03/2021 07:43

Most of the men I know are very good people who do have their child at their best interest (except the ones who believe in spanking - they always like to believe it make them a better parent)

ByeByeMissAmericanPie · 04/03/2021 07:32

I really don’t get why JF thinks she has any authority to comment on this matter.

She’s a nanny ffs.

Siablue · 04/03/2021 07:30

I have seen this on Twitter. She keeps posting things like women can be abusive too.

I know that abusive parents do try to turn their children against the other parent but research by women’s aid shows that claiming parental alienation in court does not work if the parent who has been alienated is the mum but it has been used to allow abusive dads to have unsafe contact.

Mumteedum · 04/03/2021 07:30

I heard about this claim regarding parental alienation. I can see that some men misuse this but I don't agree it doesn't exist. I know two men, one closely, who lost or nearly lost their children to this.

I think a blanket rejection of PA is not right, and I say this as someone who experienced domestic abuse and coercive control and was abused by my ex through the court system.