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Helen Staniland & Glinner to give evidence to HoL Freedom of Expression Online inquiry **title edited at OP's request**

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 03/03/2021 19:19

JCJ has just tweeted about Helen Staniland and Glinner giving evidence to the Freedom of Expression Online inquiry next Tuesday 9th March at 3 pm:

committees.parliament.uk/event/3970/formal-meeting-oral-evidence-session/

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 05/03/2021 00:19

I am looking forward to explaining to my MSP why I can't possibly vote for him in May.

LF told me my vote wasn't welcome. I respect her wishes.

That's a shame for him. He has a mortgage to pay and is about to lose his job. But, them's the breaks.

UppityPuppity · 04/03/2021 20:33

persistentwoman

NecessaryScene1
I'll be surprised if this actually goes ahead.

Surely this lot aren't dumb enough to try to cancel attendees to a House of Lords Freedom of Expression committee?

Are they?

Bet they are. There'll be lots of "intense discussions" going on in private rooms and pained telephone calls Smile

It’s exactly what they will try to do. They don’t do irony.

I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women’s rights, deny their human rights or exclude them from women-only spaces in the name of feminists. You are not feminists. Your views are not welcome in the Liberal Democrats.

LF was one of the key people I can thank to my journey to MumsNet and why I resigned my LibDem membership.

She really doesn’t get that centering males - irrespective of how they identify - in their feminism, isn’t feminism.

And don’t worry LF - I am NEVER voting Lib Dem again.

Enjoy the money from the pharmaceutical companies.

Redshoeblueshoe · 04/03/2021 20:23

Thank you

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 04/03/2021 20:06

From the Telegraph

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 04/03/2021 20:05

@Redshoeblueshoe

Does anyone know the views of any of the committee members ?
Baroness Featherstone has previously said that feminists are not welcome in Lib Dems unless they support gender neutral toilets. She is fully TWAW. "Calling for reform of the Gender Recognition Act, she added: “I also have a message to those people who believe they can restrict trans women’s rights, deny their human rights or exclude them from women-only spaces in the name of feminists. You are not feminists. Your views are not welcome in the Liberal Democrats.”
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Redshoeblueshoe · 04/03/2021 19:51

Does anyone know the views of any of the committee members ?

Mollyollydolly · 04/03/2021 19:48

Just noticed there's a page listing members of the committee. Might be worth a few emails of support if dear Michael is upset.

committees.parliament.uk/committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/membership/

persistentwoman · 04/03/2021 18:56

@NecessaryScene1

I'll be surprised if this actually goes ahead.

Surely this lot aren't dumb enough to try to cancel attendees to a House of Lords Freedom of Expression committee?

Are they?

Bet they are. There'll be lots of "intense discussions" going on in private rooms and pained telephone calls Grin
NecessaryScene1 · 04/03/2021 18:53

I'll be surprised if this actually goes ahead.

Surely this lot aren't dumb enough to try to cancel attendees to a House of Lords Freedom of Expression committee?

Are they?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/03/2021 18:40

I'll be surprised if this actually goes ahead. On the other hand if they are disinvited I guess that sends its own message.

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 17:47

Weird how the HoLs is sane and feminist right now, obvs not including Cashman and his ilk

Redshoeblueshoe · 04/03/2021 17:43

Yes Cashman is cross Grin

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 04/03/2021 17:37

I've realised that, having put HoC in the title of the thread, that this is a House of Lords committee. Interestingly Baroness Featherstone is one of the peers on the committee... committees.parliament.uk/committee/170/communications-and-digital-committee/membership

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ArabellaScott · 04/03/2021 17:30

I hope Joanna Cherry is involved in this, she was great holding Twitter to account before over their heavy handed banning of women.

Biscuitsanddoombar · 04/03/2021 17:28

According to Glinner’s latest, Michael cashman is very cross about this and has asked Liz barker to do something about it.

BaronessWrongCrowd · 04/03/2021 15:04

Does anyone know where I can view this?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 04/03/2021 13:39

Leafstamp all my metaphors are inclusive. I'm no bigot.

Mollyollydolly · 04/03/2021 12:40

Joanna Cherry taking them to task at the Human Rights Committee last year was joyful. parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0364bfc3-5adc-4aef-99bd-48c68daacc38?in=15%3A27%3A30&out=15%3A50%3A30&fbclid=IwAR3_rUOxRigL0LFeRvvF-0wvu3fgZ1RkhEPZNxJROLnNk86Jt8EIPIXu7d8

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 12:40

Will be tuning in

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TheRabbitOfCaerbannog · 04/03/2021 12:38

@Mollyollydolly

I hope they call someone from Twitter and ask them to explain Helen being banned. As you say, totally outrageous.
I'd really hope that an inquiry into Freedom of Expression Online would at least ask to speak to Twitter 🤞
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AlfonsoTheTerrible · 04/03/2021 11:49

I have a lot of respect for Glinner. More power to him.

Leafstamp · 04/03/2021 11:46

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

It does feel a bit like a worm is tipping over a turning point.
It does feel a bit like it, I really hope so.

Although I was a bit confused by possible mixed metaphors there?! Grin

RoyalCorgi · 04/03/2021 11:37

Glinner did an extraordinary list of women who have been banned from Twitter for the most innocuous reasons:

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/silence-woman

I hope he reads it out on Tuesday.

The list doesn't even mention the always-polite Jane Harris, who was banned for tweeting the comment "assigned male at birth" with an eye-rolling gif.

Manderleyagain · 04/03/2021 11:26

It is v good that Helen is being called, her question really sums up the issue & the fact she was banned should really bring it home. I don't know what she was finally banned for, but her tone on twitter was always very straightforward & she was not personal. I think it was the abstract/policy nature of the question that made it threatening to some. It illustrates the problem with making it impossible to discuss matters if principle & policy.

Maybe Graham will draw out how he fell foul of a particular group who seem to have undue influence in tech - He really was targeted by the anime lot and gamer types. He was the only big name account on the liberal/left speaking about this, and that's why they took him down. I don't think he should have been banned, but then I'm more permissive than most on what ppl should be allowed to say. I am a bit worried. Some of his twittering picked on individuals, lead to pile ons, and focussed on appearance. I'm sure some of the committee will agree with his suspension.

Well hopefully their evidence will draw out the important issues, and make the committee see the full picture. I wonder who is giving evidence in other sessions.

McDuffy · 03/03/2021 21:28

@Mollyollydolly

I hope they call someone from Twitter and ask them to explain Helen being banned. As you say, totally outrageous.
Is it a permanent ban? Shock
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