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Why don't we centre women?

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yeahbutnaw · 03/03/2021 17:27

This is a feminism board but 99% of the threads are about trans people or gender identity.

What about domestic violence, FGM, the gender pay gap, period poverty, and representation in the workplace?

It seems like this board believes the only threat to women is trans people.

Am I missing something?

OP posts:
MarieIVanArkleStinks · 07/03/2021 12:16

Late 20th century feminism was making some (albeit not enough) progress toward something resembling equality, even though attitudes to women still had a long way to go.

Over the last five years in particular, the specific brand of activism to which you refer has re-legitimized homophobia. It's also re-legitimized open misogyny in ways which would have been frowned upon had they been uttered a mere few years earlier.

This is the biggest assault I've seen on women's rights in my lifetime. Of course a board devoted to feminism and women's rights is going to prioritize it!

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 07/03/2021 11:41

I'm horrified by some of what I've learned via The Observers's campaign against femicide - I'd no idea older women weren't counted in the crime stats until 3 years ago and even now the revised threshold will plainly miss some notorious crimes:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4185454-Observer-campaign-to-tackle-femicide?

PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 10:57

That is really good Humpty.

PurpleHoodie · 07/03/2021 10:56

More sold Flowers

2 more days to buy.

ItsLateHumpty · 07/03/2021 02:34

For anyone Oz side it cost just over £26 including shipping to Oz, which is pretty damn good.

Why don't we centre women?
PotholeParadies · 07/03/2021 02:33

And you've set us free of 13, unlucky for some!

Don't use the L-word, though. Grin I can't see it yet without thinking of a particular web-comic
Envy

ItsLateHumpty · 07/03/2021 02:27

These are the measurements of doom. Grin

Thanks PotholeParadies and OP; this thread turned out better than expected.

I will order a L which now stands for Little, because I said so Wink

PotholeParadies · 07/03/2021 02:11

I get the impression they're all going to get sent out at once at the conclusion of the campaign, so I don't suppose anyone knows.

These are the measurements of doom.

Why don't we centre women?
ItsLateHumpty · 07/03/2021 02:01

Those that have bought the t-shirt what size is the large?! I could get a tape measure out, but I’m living in denial.

Super lazy of me, I know, but it follows a pattern of why I’m living in denial Grin

I’m v happy to see they will ship to Oz 💪

PotholeParadies · 06/03/2021 20:49

@User133847 How about a Trans discussion board? Sick of it clogging up the board with the same shit every day.

I appreciate the annoyance. I feel it too. Here are some threads that have nothing to do with trans stuff. Flowers

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4184062-Feminist-goals-and-organisations-which-are-working-towards-them

FGM: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4103424-FGM-in-the-UK

Public spaces: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4181054-Teenage-girls-and-public-space-facilities-an-update

Discrimination in pregnancy: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4183096-Pregnant-and-then-Screwed?msgid=105254420#105254420

PotholeParadies · 06/03/2021 20:40

13! That's a baker's dozen!

Thank you, all of you, for making this such an inspiring thread, centring some of the most marginalised women in the world.

@Buzzinwithbez, hi-five!

KateF · 06/03/2021 19:54

I've never posted on this board before but read it regularly. It has helped me educate myself about feminism and the many issues facing women and girls in this country and globally. In turn I am better equipped to debate these issues with my daughters and the young women I work with and, as an older woman, to offer support.

I am a woman.
I have daughters.
I work in a sector dominated by women and very poorly paid.
I have experienced domestic abuse.

All these things matter and in order to discuss them meaningfully we need an agreement as to what a woman is.

PS I bought the t-shirt!

TheBuffster · 06/03/2021 19:28

@User133847
1)Start your own thread/s.
2) Shore up women's rights against the current threat.
3) Buy a t shirt.
4) Have a cup of tea.

Not necessarily in that order.

User133847 · 06/03/2021 19:22

@yeahbutnaw

This is a feminism board but 99% of the threads are about trans people or gender identity.

What about domestic violence, FGM, the gender pay gap, period poverty, and representation in the workplace?

It seems like this board believes the only threat to women is trans people.

Am I missing something?

How about a Trans discussion board? Sick of it clogging up the board with the same shit every day.
Cailleach1 · 06/03/2021 19:19

@PotholeParadies

11 sold just thanks to this thread!

@yeahbutnaw, fancy making it a dozen?

Thanks for reminding me in time! I've just bought mine. I would have been sorry to miss the deadline.
PotholeParadies · 06/03/2021 18:29

11 sold just thanks to this thread!

@yeahbutnaw, fancy making it a dozen?

PurpleHoodie · 06/03/2021 17:40

More sold.

Like it Brew

Barracker · 06/03/2021 13:04

I don't know what you mean by "women", OP. I suspect it might be something very different from what I mean.

I'd ask you to explain so we can talk about 'women'. But then this would become a thread about the very subject you think shouldn't be discussed.

Dilemma.

PurpleHoodie · 06/03/2021 09:14

Just had a peek.

315 sold so far Flowers

Winesalot · 05/03/2021 14:37

PurpleHoodie

I am not posting with the expectation that the OP will even read them. But I am sure with all the new readers there is a need to cover off the issues that OP raised.

Yes, yeahbutnaw. I do think you are missing something. Hopefully, though, you will start to consider the impacts on those exact issues you are seeking to address. The impact that is of one group seeking to access the established rights of another. The impact on women and girls.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/03/2021 14:28

Love to wonderful Hibo Flowers

PurpleHoodie · 05/03/2021 14:27

Fantastic post winesalot

PurpleHoodie · 05/03/2021 14:26

When I first looked, there were around 279 sold.

Every penny helps.

Everyone for Hibo Star

PurpleHoodie · 05/03/2021 14:21

Over 300+ now sold!

LOLeater · 05/03/2021 13:53

Hi everyone, thought I’d have a quick read of Mumsnet this lunchtime.... and now I’ve got a new T-shirt ordered!

Thank you for posting the link and I’m so glad to support the brave and defiant Hibo Wardere. She’s an inspiration in her defence of girls and women against this hideous mutilation.