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Why don't we centre women?

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yeahbutnaw · 03/03/2021 17:27

This is a feminism board but 99% of the threads are about trans people or gender identity.

What about domestic violence, FGM, the gender pay gap, period poverty, and representation in the workplace?

It seems like this board believes the only threat to women is trans people.

Am I missing something?

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PotholeParadies · 09/03/2021 22:48

one hour!

PurpleHoodie · 09/03/2021 09:28

Little bumpette.

One more day to buy Daffodil

PotholeParadies · 09/03/2021 00:09

Just letting you all know that there is one day left to get that t-shirt. One!

PotholeParadies · 08/03/2021 18:21

We're at 333 sold which is a nice number but not quite big enough.

Here's that link again www.mercht.com/c/i-am-a-woman

lazylinguist · 08/03/2021 16:26

It's impossible to centre women if you don't know what a woman is. Hth.

PotholeParadies · 08/03/2021 15:55

15! Thank you for buying and letting us know!

elgreco · 08/03/2021 14:05

Bought 1

PotholeParadies · 08/03/2021 13:25

It's been a team effort!

We are all women fighting for women!

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 13:16

Definitely Helleo Brew

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 13:15

Yes Potholes. You are a Star Flowers

Hibo and her friends are StarStarStarStarStarFlowers I dont know any of them, but I wish them all well x

Threads like these lift up women. However unintentionally. And give platform to those small charities who have huge meanings.

Hibo for Dame/MBE/OBE.

Helleofabore · 08/03/2021 12:57

I think we definitely need to thank the OP for posting this thread. If it is helping Hibo, it has achieved something special.

PotholeParadies · 08/03/2021 12:55

332, Purple, and at least 14 of those were due to this thread.

Who's going to be purchaser number 15, eh?

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 12:52

^they

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 12:52

So. How is the anti-FGM support going?

PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 12:51

Unless female, and male, Green party members EXPLICITY come out with sex-based pro-female/pro-protect ALL sexualities/pro positive enviromental statements (each and every one of them) them are useless.

Absolutely useless.

Helleofabore · 08/03/2021 12:45

I am not going to post a link to another tweet from this co-chair for women in the Greens.

However, one of their tweets had a link to a vid of someone dancing and celebrating with the words of a song over the top. Their tweet was

I think this should be the LGBTIQAGreens official song after everything we've done this weekend

One verse was

Why yes, I’m an evil left wing sheeple snowflake
^working for the deep state,
here to force your wives to get abortions^
and then leave you for transgender lesbians.

It was posted on twitter at 2.08 am on 8/3/21.

So, officially in time for IWD.

Please tell us @yeahbutnaw are we are able to discuss female representation in women’s officer roles in relation to things like this? Because I think it is a legitimate conflict and needs lots of discussion.

And does this then also cross over into a discussion about violence against women and girls?

This is a political party senior member who is supposed to represent women and girls. To your mind are they doing their job?

Helleofabore · 08/03/2021 11:07

This is exactly the point cailleach1

Cailleach1 · 08/03/2021 10:13

Does sexism exist if you stop recognising sex?

Helleofabore · 08/03/2021 10:04

sexist based

Sex based!! Autocorrect failure.

Helleofabore · 08/03/2021 10:04

yeahbutnaw

What did you think about this tweet on IWD?

Trans people do have a home in @TheGreenParty

Transphobia does not.

Self ID is now party policy.

"Sex Based Rights" was defeated.

The party will not be debating if my workplace should be banned in the UK.

We won 🏳️‍⚧️💚🎉

So the Green party’s co-chair for women is celebrating the ‘defeat’ of sexist based rights and celebrating that GenderGP is not to be campaigned against by the party in light of the exposure of such poor safeguarding practices.

Again, this comes back to my point for your query about ‘representation’? Is this representation YOU are happy with?

Are we to believe that the primary focus of this person is on females when they wish to abolish ‘sex based’ rights like they are not important? How do you see this working in your mind?

Why don't we centre women?
PurpleHoodie · 08/03/2021 07:31

Little bumpette.

One more day to buy.

Happy International Women's Day Flowers

gardenbird48 · 07/03/2021 14:18

@HeadIsFucked

It seems like this board believes the only threat to women is trans people.

I also find this kind of thing disingenuous. Its not trans people who are the threat as such, though if they are of the male sex, they are as much a risk as any other male.

While male violence and such is not the only issue facing women today, it is a bloody large one. So, I don't really get the 'why are feminists concerned about this?!' angle.

Exactly. I think in general posters on FWR are very clear that the threat to women is the removal of our rights and protections which is partly facilitated by the removal of our words to describe ourselves.

Women object to the push to allow any male person who claims it to have full access to womens spaces and protections.

Anyone who sees protecting women's legal rights as anti-trans need to consider the logic of their position a bit further. Why should women not seek to protect the rights and safeguards we fought for?

Blurred lines are dangerous.

HeadIsFucked · 07/03/2021 13:46

It seems like this board believes the only threat to women is trans people.

I also find this kind of thing disingenuous. Its not trans people who are the threat as such, though if they are of the male sex, they are as much a risk as any other male.

While male violence and such is not the only issue facing women today, it is a bloody large one. So, I don't really get the 'why are feminists concerned about this?!' angle.

HeadIsFucked · 07/03/2021 13:43

The issue I see, is yes there are a lot of topics to do with the GRA and such. But, if transactivists get their way, all womens rights will be pretty much gone in one swoop, so this does seem to be one of the most important issues to be ontop of right now. Its not much god focussing on the pay gap, is men are icluded in the womens stats. No good talking about male violence, while male violence is being hidden in female stats, which will in turn bring about a day of 'omg women are as bad as men, see!!'

Ontop of this, threads like this confuse me a bit. If there is a specific topic you want to discuss, post it and I am sure replies will be gathered. If there is more than one topic, post them all! It only ever seems to be 'other women are talking about stuff I dont care about', rather than any attempt to open up discussion in other areas.

Yes, I think 'the trans topic' is very focussed on right now, but I also see why. And totally fail to see why people cannot start threads on other stuff, if the amount of trans stuff bothers them.

alwayslucky · 07/03/2021 12:42

International Women's Day was marked on the Radio 4 enforced religion hour today. By a young man talking about his religious youth group, followed by a boys' choir.