Mumsnet Says They Are Trans Friendly; What do you think?

Oh are you their representative now?

No, where do you get that from?

Was just commenting, (like people tend to do on here) how it reminded me of being told off at school as in when I'd get "and what do you have to say for yourself, young lady?"

What is a multi gender lesbian??
Your guess is as good as mine.

Came to see the transphobia on MN, disappointed not to find any

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It says here they did see

Most of the transphobia I did see was expected and entirely not new

I suppose all this is to say, I went on mumsnet to see how much they all are willing to say they're transphobic, and I found out that there's a lot more ableism and classism instead. Most of the transphobia I did see was expected and entirely not new.

Came to see the transphobia on MN, disappointed not to find any so decided to accuse MN of something else instead (at a safe distance on twitter). Well done you.

Nightinghawk what have you got to say for yourself?

Blimey, well I can really see them wanting to come back to answer that straight away, sounds like head teacher standing over you at the front of the class lol
Maybe they might just self flagellate for repentance instead

I am nonbinary trans previously they were a multigender lesbian though according to their Twitter?

I think the only solution is to calmly engage with the arguments whilst showing sympathy for their position. Then imagine how the ultimate result if the ideology the are promoting is worse for them and devalues them and ask them about this.

Someone viewing things only from their own perspective is unlikely to have a great deal of empathy for anyone else's. Some of the transgender ideologies are attacking the trans person at a very base level. Our sex is wired into our DNA at a cellular level. Validating feeling an uneasy dissonance between mind and body, is pretty much saying, "You are correct to feel unease, your body is wrong for you! You need special treatment. Medical treatment. Special dispensations".

Instead we should be saying, "You are not wrong to feel an unease. Your unease is because society is broken. Your gender ID is not wrong for your sex. Society is far too restrictive over its expectations over what it means to be a particular sex. Your sex and gender ID do go together. They are both part of you. It is ok to feel like you do, it's a natural response to your environment. Lots of people feel like you do.".

@TheChampagneGalop but how else I are they going to cry for attention if not by deliberately stirring the pot and only taking what suits them from it? They clearly have not much else going on in their lives if they’ve had to come to mumsnet to generate Twitter attention.

I do believe it's a bad faith discussion when someone "went on mumsnet to see how much they all are willing to say they're transphobic."

Agree. If I started an "I think dog owners are really selfish and dogs should always be on leads, what do you think?" thread on the doghouse board, of course I would get a particular response. (NB: I don't think this!)

if it feels mentally exhausting from a non disabled point of view, can only imagine how it may feel if you are.

It's an anonymous forum. There is no way to judge anything except what is posted.

I am blocked on Twitter by the OP despite never having heard of them. Obviously using a generic blocker

For anyone else blocked and interested in their Review of Mumsnet, the thread has been archived here:

archive.is/YLnnc

Other threads archived previously:
<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/twitter.com/Nightinghawk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">archive.is/twitter.com/Nightinghawk/

Earlier incarnations of this person cite pronouns as "They/He" and They/He appears to have a bit of an obsession with lesbians - who are evil, obviously

I’d be a lot more patient and longsuffering if I knew I was speaking to someone very young
Yes but I would still expect them not to lie

I do think that it helps to know the age/stage of life people are at when they come here to discuss this and related issues.

I’d be a lot more patient and longsuffering if I knew I was speaking to someone very young with hardly any life experience and likely lacking the critical thinking practise to even be able to grasp much of such complex and nuanced discussion...

@Nightinghawk what have you got to say for yourself?

I do believe it's a bad faith discussion when someone "went on mumsnet to see how much they all are willing to say they're transphobic."

Sorry their Twitter posts, apologies for any offence given definitely not intended

The OP is very young and her Twitter posts do seem to reflect that.

It's very upsetting trying to engage with people in good faith who then run off to Twitter to slag you off.

Completely discounted my post saying I would be interested in their response when they feel able. I won't be interacting with them again.

Perhaps starting a thread where you throw out lots of questions that you expect people to take the time to answer is not the best idea, if you're too busy to come back and engage?

I’m not a fan of the spoons analogy as to me it sounds twee

On behalf of dd thats never really made sense to us, we've always said batteries as more people seem to know exactly what is meant

There is absolutely no forgiveness if you have a busy schedule (with or without any of the above explained) and can't keep up with the thread. Honestly this strikes me as more of a classist matter, but it also fits with ableism because of intersections.

Classist? Why? Lot of working class friends of mine currently unemployed, plenty of time for social media

If you start a thread about trans issues, on the MN FWR board known for their vigorous debates on trans activism, you'll be expected to answer difficult questions and justify your ideas. If you only want to post now and then probably best just to add to an existing thread.