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FFS re. Hilaria & Alec Baldwin and normalisation of surrogacy

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PatienceVirtue · 03/03/2021 14:15

www.etonline.com/hilaria-and-alec-baldwins-daughter-lucia-was-born-via-surrogate-161509

The Baldwins, a baby-hungry 'Spaniard' and rich Hollywood male, have had a sixth (sixth!) child six months after having their fifth. Apparently by surrogacy, well it wasn't carried by her obviously. Which means they implanted an embryo or embryos into some poor womb-holder while she was already heavily pregnant with their fifth child.

Why? FFS. I just don't understand it. Originally surrogacy was sold as solution to the utter misery of infertility and I feel a great deal of sympathy with this. But when it becomes the go-to of extremely wealthy families who already have numerous children (cf Kim Kardashian, Robbie Williams et al), then its exploitative and transactional nature is exposed.

I can't bear the way it's become so normalised to use women like ovens. Stop call it carrying a baby, like they're handbags. It's growing a baby from a microscopic dot to a newborn.

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Number3BigCupOfTea · 03/03/2021 15:21

It was a surrogacy pregnancy? wow. I didn't think it was long since their last child but hadn't realised it was only six months.
She's given birth five times so it is hard to understand. Either, what's one more time, or (more to the point) five children is enough children.

The timing is odd as well. They must have had two children in 'utero' 6 months ago.

PatienceVirtue · 03/03/2021 15:20

Apparently (realise I'm over invested here) there's speculation that they were desperate for another girl, so when they discovered that the fifth child was a boy, they decided to order up the preferred brand.

Actually writing that down it seems too awful even for these awful people. Whatever, I do feel sorry for the fifth child when he realises that even while pregnant with him, his parents had their eyes and wallet on the next one.

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LolaNova · 03/03/2021 15:18

That’s so messed up. People criticise big families like the Radfords so heavily but surely this is just as irresponsible. There should be laws about this ffs. It’s like when you read about pregnant women adopting (usually babies from abroad or of a different race so they can have some kind of massive —narcissistic— altruistic rainbow family 🙄).

zanahoria · 03/03/2021 15:18

"Who's the mother? She wasn't pregnant. She gave birth six months ago," one person wrote, to which Alec responded, "You should shut the f**k up and mind your own business."

www.etonline.com/alec-baldwin-slams-mean-comments-on-wife-hilarias-baby-post-mind-your-own-business-161500

Hoppinggreen · 03/03/2021 15:15

Ronaldo I mean

Hoppinggreen · 03/03/2021 15:14

Suspect he had slightly different reasons

LouHotel · 03/03/2021 15:14

I thought the Ronaldo case was he was doing surrogacy alone and his girlfriend at the time happened to get pregnant. Different issue.

Yeah I find it unbelievable that at 6 months pregnant their thought process was to arrange another pregnancy. He's 70 years old!

zanahoria · 03/03/2021 15:14

I guess now her career as a fake Spaniard is over she has more time to dedicate to posting pictures of her kids on the interner.

Hoppinggreen · 03/03/2021 15:14

The pair of them sound fucking awful anyway so it’s not much of a surprise.

Londono · 03/03/2021 15:12

Unbelievably awful

zanahoria · 03/03/2021 15:11

Christiano Ronaldo did something similar

LucilleTheVampireBat · 03/03/2021 14:52

How narcissistic and messed up do you have to be to order a baby while you're literally pregnant with your 5th?! It shouldn't be allowed

I thought pretty much the same thing when I saw this in the 'news'

FightingTheFoo · 03/03/2021 14:37

I have to say I was massively Hmmat hearing about this.

How narcissistic and messed up do you have to be to order a baby while you're literally pregnant with your 5th?! It shouldn't be allowed.

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