twitch and 'womnx'

Another vote here for womXXn. Totally going to start using this.

One thing here, and this is true of so many sections of society, is the assumption by the wider community that they speak with one voice.

I’m sure there are some transwomen who are happy with the term. But because this section of the trans community shouted first they are listened to.

And this could be the same of any minority group.

This is almost ironic as that time when Owen Jones got all irate at sex segregation and suggested that transwomen have their own toilets and all the other women have to use different ones Yes please, LOJ, that would be great.

I look forward to the apology from UNwomen

Wasn't 'womxn' for transwomen and black women (who obviously aren't proper women )

I know a few very 'woke' isntagrammers who are always falling over themselves to be kind and inclusive who use 'womxn'. Oh dear....

Ha ha, I saw this earlier and thought 'wokemate'! Serves them right.

Of course when actual women object to 'womxn' they are nasty bigots

For fucks sake, they come up with the stupid term womxn in the first place and when women complained about it we were told 'get used to it, enjoy your erasure, etc.' and now it's fallen out of fashion with the TRAs it's gone. Just like that.

At least it's gone. One thing which we can agree on. Don't know whether to laugh or cry. What a mess.

Womxn never made any sense. I'm not interested in arguments for or against inclusion or "trans people taking our name"- it simply didn't make any sense.

If you think "trans women are women" or "transwomen are women" or only "xx chromosome bearing women are women" the word "women" fits all of them.

The arguments between the 3 beliefs are irrelevant to "womxn" being daft and meaningless.

I've seen someone on here, who I assume is male from the way they position themselves in posts on prostitution and gender, describe how they wondered if black women could be as womanly as men who identify as trans because they had friends who didn't find black women attractive, but did find the men who identify as women attractive. This poster has also defined themselves "a fully paid up woke liberal leftie".

Think we need a daily one!

Just read this and came to comment.

So who is womxn for then?

Is this one of those things like where we get told not to sing Baa Baa Black Sheep because it is offensive when no actual person who could be offended by it has complained?

Is this people being offended on behalf of someone and because that person is a white man they get listened to so places change what they do because they think it’s the right thing to do for no reason?

Also, the term is inclusive of black women? What the ever loving fuck? Who is thinking that black women are somehow other?

Just depressing - who cares what actual women think about the term, let's only speak to and about transwomen.

Because women of colour aren't women??
I have nothing to say that isn't sweary.

And yet when I (and others) complained about this word being used for an event a while back I was basically told to stop whining like a baby (I paraphrase).

[quote MaudTheInvincible]Newsnight 2018. Sophie Cook explains that 'womxn' makes it inclusive to WoC (!!) and men who identify as trans. twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1050146831571644416?s=20[/quote]
😲 I really can't imagine many people outside of Louis Theroux documentaries that would need a separate word to include women of colour. Astonishingly racist.

Womyn (which is also mentioned in the article) was once considered a progressive feminist term which removed the patriarchal "men" from the word. Now it's offensive. Can we have an annual guide to what is offensive or not please?

I prefer words I can pronounce

Newsnight 2018. Sophie Cook explains that 'womxn' makes it inclusive to WoC (!!) and men who identify as trans. twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1050146831571644416?s=20

Everyone seems to hate womxn. I’ve seen it being blamed on the big bad t*rfs as well as the superwoke. Finally, something we all agree on.

I never hear this fucking shit spouted about the word 'men'z
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This honestly seems like something out of the narcissist's play book. Always keeping people walking on eggshells, never certain about what is wrong or right. Yesterday 'womxn' was progressive and if you complained about it you were a transphobe (incidentally, if you have an account on the dating site "Her' they ONLY accept womxn - you can't call yourself a woman.) Today, 'womxn' is disavowed and was invented by the transphobes. They do this all the time. Remember when 'born in the wrong body' was a sensitive metaphor to describe the realities of being transgender? And then randomly it was deemed offensive and made up by transphobes! There is literally no winning because that is entirely the point..

After initially laughing at the sheer stupidity of it all I then actually came to the same place as MsOgyny that it is all about power.