An inclusive way to be gender critical?

People might not agree with what I say but most of it is born out of frustration and sadness I guess at the divided society we seem to have become.

But as I realised on another thread, my age sometimes means I haven't seen some of the things other people have in reverse to women's rights.

No need to be so pessimistic rootytoot, with all the Court action ongoing and upcoming it might happen sooner than you think. 🙂

My point is there is zero way to police it. Until then, we can all argue this all day but it won't change until it's legislated , which, back to my original argument, won't happen any time soon.

The reason there is an assumption that they wont is because if evidence showed they do (no idea how, as you have no idea who you have been sharing a toilet with) we wouldn't be having this debate and it wouldn't be an issue.

Whoever would use your toilet as a transwoman is already using it.

So just because some males are already abusing the system by using female toilets, we should just ignore it?

That is a good question but there is no answr because at the minute, it isnt.

The reason there is an assumption that they wont is because if evidence showed they do (no idea how, as you have no idea who you have been sharing a toilet with) we wouldn't be having this debate and it wouldn't be an issue.

Whoever would use your toilet as a transwoman is already using it.

Then we are back to an assumption that males won't respect female spaces, if they happen to identify as transwomen.

This is what these arguments always amount to. Why can't our lack of consent be enough?

Opinions can't be incorrect 🤣 coming from one of the main contenders of the 'gender is nonsense' cohort

When an opinion is presented as fact that can be incorrect, yes. When someone expresses a personal opinion about something it's neither correct or incorrect, it's just an opinion. Is that complicated?

Saying that males who declare themselves women aren't actually women, is absolutely an opinion, depending on the majority definition of woman. It just has more logical and scientific backing than the alternatives.

Just because some males ignore female boundaries doesn't mean that people should not try to ensure safeguarding.

Also transmen make a deliberate choice to put themselves at risk. The women in female toilets are not given the choice if transwomen are allowed to use female facilities

Opinions can't be incorrect 🤣 coming from one of the main contenders of the 'gender is nonsense' cohort

It's not that they won't , but I'm assuming that since we are having this debate in the fist place, thats the concern..

If transwomen all respected it (well, not that we actually have any way of knowing, do we) we wouldn't be having this bloody conversation

**a transman is a biological female, he is at as much risk as women.

So why's it OK for them to be in there with men and not biological females?**

Who says it's ok for them? Single sex means single sex.

Then we are back to an assumption that males won't respect female spaces, if they happen to identify as transwomen.

For the third time - you have a really low opinion of transwomen.

I'm not a "ghastly misogynist" in any shape of form.

Again, incorrect.

It's an opinion, so it can't be incorrect. I agree with it.

Because it's true.

Whether they SHOULD respect it is another argument, but wanting something doesn't make it true.

If a transman is a biological female, he is at as much risk as women.

So why's it OK for them to be in there with men and not biological females?

Again, I am absolutely in favour of third spaces.

Am I misquoting this?

And, quite simply, because there is nothing other than a group of women online campaigning against them and ridiculing and mocking the concept they live by, to stop them.

In reference to male people accessing the female spaces you claim to support?

@CorvusPurpureus if you want to be that particular, then yes, your QUOTE is correct.

but your paragraph underneath of "so you are saying", isn't. on three occasions.

Again, incorrect.

You said I said that men who weren't welcomed by women would imply violence.

Never once said anything of the sort.

What should they use? Men's toilets? They are far more at risk in there.

At risk because males are there?
But transwomen are male and just as likely to be dangerous as other males , so why put women at risk by allowing a certain type of male to use female facilities?

No, you weren't being polite, you were being...inaccurate (& that definitely IS me being polite).

I scrupulously quoted exactly what you'd posted.

I don't care if you're floundering for a version of feminism that involves some ghastly misogynistic ideas - we have THAT argument all the time.

But it's not helping you to accuse other posters of misquoting you when everyone can see that you've been directly & accurately quoted.

It's pretty clear.

I agree with what's been said. I don't agree with the manner.

Yes, I say I didn't say it, because I didn't.

On each occasion, the "so you're saying" has been absolutely stuff all like what I said.

I have nothing to hide, you can read what I said and what was quoted

Yes and that's why people pick you up on what you say - then you claim you didn't say it. Every time.

I would support a court decision
Your position is so confused your support or otherwise is pretty irrelevant tbh.