Janice Turner on Rise Brighton and refuges for women

Every time I wonder if I am being paranoid or unreasonable about how much this movement hates women, there's a breathtaking reminder.

Here you go

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d360fb9a-7861-11eb-80c3-8cc375faed89?shareToken=9e2d4b281ecc2e904fee1ae37d6cc669

a 2nd times article - don't have a share link
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/womens-abuse-charity-lost-council-contracts-for-excluding-men-h6jfgzqd3

Some good ones too though. "I hope all the women reading this will take heart from the large number of supportive comments offered by decent men."

Some of the comments in that article are chilling. Who are these people?

Public bodies and local authorities heavily lobbied by Stonewall, which campaigns to abolish single-sex spaces, have adopted its equality criteria. Thus a refuge will lose marks in a tendering bid for prioritising women’s needs

prioritising women brings a black mark in stonewall world

nothing must prioritise women eh? not even a service were 91% of the people who need it are women

was there ever a more stark demonstration of stonewall's gross sexism?

Whilst Stonewall maintains this 'annihilation' of women, they alienate the very people who would be willing to give massive support to transpeople and their needs. Women are more likely to be sympathetic to such causes but if pushed too hard, there is a backlash. Stonewall really don't understand women methinks and nor have they worked out that we, us, are where the real support would come from. Parking their tanks on our lawn was not a good move

I'm so pleased she said families vying for shelter spaces, and not just women. The fact that so often women fleeing violence have their children with them is being ignored by the 'inclusive' crowd.

Thanks for share token. Hope this is widely read.

Exactly Wildish! They are so lacking in creativity in how to support trans people. Do they really think that enforced pronouns in emails will make a difference? We do know what trans people are more likely to live in poverty, struggle with employment, have housing issues. Stonewall could fund some actual services even if they didn’t deliver them themselves but they don’t want to do that. They prefer to have nice back slapping meetings in Whitehall or in corporate law/finance conference rooms with proper coffee and nice biscuits. So much more civilised than getting your hands dirty by eg running a refuge for trans people

Those whose idea of activism is hashtags and Twitter pile-ons don’t build their own services. They only smash things down.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Organisations like Stonewall could fund a trans-only refuge tomorrow. They have the money, they have the cachet, the access to donors, the ability to buy expertise. Everything.

They don't want to create a trans service. They want to smash women's services.

She nailed it, as usual, from her very first paragraph about 'luxury beliefs'.

I'm glad that she got in the bit about Stonewall campaigning to end single sex spaces as well, because I really don't think many people know that. I can still hardly believe it myself and always wonder if they will take it down, but I have just looked and it's still there!

www.stonewall.org.uk/women-and-equalities-select-committee-inquiry-transgender-equality

Recommending removing access to single sex spaces to the Women's and Equalities Select Committee, I mean...Come the fuck ON!

Yes Joody and we are already losing meaningful statistics about what proportion of victims are female.

I am almost finished listening to Alexandra Heminsley's book, "Somebody to Love". In that she speaks about an interview she has with Rise, which is the charity mentioned by Janice here. AH is the author whose husband transitioned after her baby was born. I like her writing a lot, except towards the end of the book the cognitive dissonance is so high it becomes uncomfortable listening.

Anyway, she speaks of her thought process around working with Rise. She speaks at length of needing to ensure that the charity would work with transpeople as well as with women. There is the description of the interview. There is her relief that "of course, this is Brighton, we will work with transwomen".

So in a newly published novel, on this subject, on the one hand the charity shows an acceptable face towards transpeople. A couple of months later is it defunded.

Nothing is enough. I had a conversation online about DV with a male colleague. He was unsympathetic. He sent me a video on FB of a woman attacking a man, saying it goes both ways.

The level of vitriol, womanhating, backlash in society currently is really really worrying.

I want to be Janice Turner when I grow up.

Quite a difference in tone between the comments under Janice Turner's article (which are heartening and broadly supportive of women only spaces) and the one in the Scottish edition (which are disappointing).

Excellent article. Thank you, Janice.

Oh she gets it. And she sums up Stonewall well Stonewall, which campaigns to abolish single-sex spaces

Not just gender neutral service - also far fewer staff in the new 'model'. So the massively oversubscribed helpline and casework service now becomes the dangerously oversubscribed service.

It's almost as if the numbers in the Stonewall benchmarks, checkmarks and index, get translated into public £££ contracts and total up to the grand sum of £££ defunding. Check.

Judicial review?

Is there a case for a judicial review?

Oh I've got goosebumps!
When she said about smashing things down it reminded me of Damian Barr targeting Baroness Nicholson, despite her amazing charity work it's the way they work

There is also an article in the Scottish section:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d360fb9a-7861-11eb-80c3-8cc375faed89?shareToken=5dc3db59a6eaa3a97c5766d23b8589fc

That is an excellent article. She nails it every time.