GenderGP... Telegraph expose

Thank goodness for Baroness Nicolson.

Baroness Nicholson wrote to Matt Hancock and copied to Lord Bethell on this subject on 18 December 2020.

She does not seem to have had a reply yet but says she is confident that they will act:

"Letter on the out of country clinic offering drugs to children"
twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1349102515237826563
Archived: archive.is/UvMsZ

"Pages 3 & 4 of my letter"
twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1349103130638692354
Archived: archive.is/1h9x4

Is this relevant? Can we pursue through this route?

I’m not sure MHRA regulates everything or only those registered....

medicine-seller-register.mhra.gov.uk/report

So.

Anyone, ANYONE - in the EU or in the UK - can take money for drugs to be prescribed for UK children?

Is that - legally - correct?!

Does that mean that we can all take money - and get a third country doctor from say, Egypt or Cyprus or Finland, to provide prescriptions.

ANY Mumsnetter is legally able to get a doctor from ANY country in the world to write up a UK legal prescription???!!!

Is that correct????!!!!

www.gov.uk/guidance/prescriptions-issued-in-the-eea-and-switzerland-guidance-for-pharmacists

In the UK gov Brexit guidance- prescriptions from Drs in the EAA are valid. However I'm not clear if prescriptions for unlicensed indications are valid- and cross sex hormones & puberty blockers are not licensed for gender dysphoria. Will try & clarify.

It does feel like a massive loophole, and we also have issues with online pharmacies supplying prescription painkillers without proper medical oversight. Will try and find info on relevant legislation.

*Should non-UK residential people be able to deal drugs (take payment) that are given to our children?

Thanks for explaining everything.

Brexit means we should have a clear answer to that.

This is going to be one of the next be questions for UK citizens.

Should non-UK* people be able to deal drugs (take payment) to our children?

*including UK born people living abroad. And stripped of their medical licences.

Like Shamina Begum, will, or can they be stripped of their British/UK citizenship?

I’m just trying to work out where is the appropriate legal or regulatory framework. If it’s EU based, they should be registered with EU equivalent which is the EMA. And I’m wondering what the terms of that registration are.

But also there should be some protection for UK citizens from within UK??

Would it be legal for a company to sell harmful prescription drugs of another kind to a child online?? What if a child told an online go they had chronic pain? Would it be legal for that company to sell the child opiates?

They’re the medicines and healthcare regulations agency.
They are responsible for regulating drug in the U.K.

But I am just reading that many online pharmacists and gps outside of the U.K. are not registered or regulated by the MHRA.

So it looks like that is the wrong place to search for oversight.

I’m wondering if/why there isn’t a law making it illegal to purchase and sell to minors??

Who are the MHRA everythjng?

Do the MHRA know about this???

Excellent question Raiders.

The Webberley's are taking direct payments.

Perhaps it's a question we could all write to our MPs/MSPs about.

Does any knowledgable pharmacist or legal person know what the relevant legislation is that is permitting doctors not licensed in the UK getting a prescription filled in the UK? We need to get that loophole closed

[quote Thingybob]Sian Berry has come out in support of GenderGP

twitter.com/sianberry/status/1367883580555333632[/quote]
"Sian Berry's attempt to rewrite history"
March 4 2021

Sian Berry, the Green Party’s co-leader is due to give a speech at 2pm tomorrow.

Any journalist covering the Green Party should go on Twitter and use the search term “@londondeletes sian berry aimee challenor”. You will be taken to a page that reveals in full Berry’s attempts to erase history about this very disturbed individual whose influence touched Stonewall, The Lib Dems, The Greens and now Reddit.

The tweets were deleted after the exposure of risk but before the internal Veritas investigation.

One question journalists might want to ask—will the Greens finally apologise to Andy Healy after suspending him for trying to warn them about Challenor?

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/sian-berrys-attempt-to-rewrite-history

(see article for links)

It's so manipulative isn't it? No one is excluding trans people from rights and services, trying to ensure that services they access are safe, open and honest is completely different, why do the trans supporters not want this? I honestly don't understand it, any other area of medicine that operated like this and everyone would be calling them out especially when prescribing controlled drugs, but come to trans health and it seems anything goes. Surely anyone who was genuinely concerned about trans health would want to ensure that the care they received was absolutely safe and efficient.

I honestly don't understand it - well I do a bit, certain non-trans people have repeatedly told those struggling with their gender identity that they will commit suicide, everyone hates them, and they are the most oppressed in the history of the world whilst also promising the magic pill that will save them - at great cost. Their saviour is also their oppressor.

Demand care that is the right care, not emotive manipulation like this.

Sian Berry has come out in support of GenderGP

twitter.com/sianberry/status/1367883580555333632

Agree, Purple. I find it staggering that this is operating in plain sight.

It’s been mentioned to Andrew on twitter the fact the Webberley’s had their medical licences suspended by the GMC hence the move overseas. He didn’t know!

More sunlight

Good. I hope the Webberley's end up in jail.

Money grabbing dealers.

Money. Honestly I think that’s all it is. Money and adulation and woke cookies
It's just money, I've been slowly searching for what else shes into and have found links to bodybuilding and tentative links to end of life drugs, opiates and some other stuff that I cannot yet be sure of. It's the money involved in providing the prescription that she wants.

Horrifying. If I wasn’t born in the 1970s, I would have been one of these children buying this poison online

Had the internet been a thing back when I was a child, I would definitely have been all over this. I was such a tomboy, and earnestly thought I must be a boy in those puberty years. And it wasnt a phase.

Oh look GenderGP here to save the day, from the meanie NHS.

Interesting use of the word "people", not young people or children which is who/what they are. It is just using fluffy language as the correct language is too much of a stark reality.

It sickens me what some people will do for money. It reminds me of war profiteering.

Shahrar Ali has been a sensible voice on this issue for a while now, a bit of a lone voice though.

Could their internet provider not be blocked or something?