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Creator of “assigned male” comics is a “little”

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HermioneWeasley · 23/02/2021 19:58

Statement here. Basically a “little” is an adult baby fetish. Sophie draws their image as a young girl and fantasises about sleep overs with other little girls where they talk about their genitals. Anyone else think this has more red flags than a Chinese communist party shindig?

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OvaHere · 25/02/2021 09:18

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Creator of “assigned male” comics is a “little”
Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 25/02/2021 09:17

@OvaHere

Also throwing the whole LGBT under the bus with them. Nothing to see here everyone is like me.
No no no no! You don't speak for other people SL!
Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 25/02/2021 09:11

It's the way that

  1. SL is celebrated as an author for children
  2. SL's mainstream drawings are designed to be appealing and "cute", so children like SL's pictures
  3. SL then does adult content in the same style
nauticant · 25/02/2021 09:09

Interesting developments since the story broke. Labelle went to ground, there was a wave of outrage, Labelle got support for the "coming out" statement, and since then there's been growing support on social media about how the frankly alarming images are completely harmless and have no sexually related aspect whatsoever. For example, in the case of trans people, being a "little" is about reclaiming a lost childhood having had a "wrong sex" childhood. The supporters are saying that because the criticism and disgust comes from a place of transphobia, Labelle deserves uncritical support. Seeing opinion swinging round somewhat, Labelle has reinstated the pervy images account. There's still plenty of criticism from rational people on social media though.

History is being rewritten. While the reality was that images were found, there was near universal disgust, Labelle hid, and then produced the damage limitation statement, the new reality is that, unprompted, Labelle bravely "came out as a little" and this triggered unjustified anger and hateful and transphobic responses.

It's still in the balance and I think Labelle will be permanently harmed by this but there are plenty of people who think this can simply be brushed aside. There will surely be some people looking at how this is playing out and noting with interest how Labelle's identity is providing them with a significant amount of protection.

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 25/02/2021 09:08

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/feb/09/kink-anthology-book-fear-shame

Remember this article "more visibility"

Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 25/02/2021 09:07

"no, there's no reason why SL couldn't go on school trips away with pupils overnight, I can't believe in 2021 you would kink shame in this way"... "There needs to be more visibility of this to normalise it"...

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 25/02/2021 09:06

Its clearly a lot more than that. I'm not going to link to the account (fairly sure I'll get deleted) and I'm sure as hell not going to share a screenshot, but the assigned male twitter account is retweeting from their 'alternative queer 18+' account and there are a lot worse drawings on there than the furry in the nappy, including one with two people, one with a clear erection, the other much smaller in only underwear, seemingly underage and surrounded by stuffed toys.
This is clearly not about just liking colouring and playing with lego and the fact that those images are still up despite the hoo-ha, tells me that this isn't an accidental thing, its a deliberate attempt to shift boundaries.
I'm also going to mention that the main account is supposedly child friendly and 'educational' but its retweeting explicit content from the alt one.
I can't believe people are still defending this person.

OvaHere · 25/02/2021 08:57

Also throwing the whole LGBT under the bus with them. Nothing to see here everyone is like me.

Creator of “assigned male” comics is a “little”
Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 25/02/2021 08:46

It feels like our ability to say "I don't want this content around my kids" / "This kind of paraphilia brings up safeguarding concerns, can we talk about this?" is being reduced. (Politically- eg. There was AC who's father enacted out their paraphilia, where any questions about AC were viewed as phobia)

Creator of “assigned male” comics is a “little”
Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 25/02/2021 08:40

SL has just admitted that it is a link. Nobody is surprised. Now it's "I have a kink, get over it"

Well... Do we really have to get over it when it involves publicly creating and sharing pictures based on infants?! Even if they are "just cartoons"?! What on earth?!?!

Clymene · 25/02/2021 08:01

Creepy as

HoneysuckIejasmine · 25/02/2021 07:56

@MichelleofzeResistance

It is being treated like an identity, rather than what it really is - a serious and often debilitating mental health condition.

I nearly went round the bend a few years ago when I discovered that chronic fatigue had become a fashionable identity, with much playing at pacing and 'spoons'. Those of us who live with it 24/7 instead of finding it an interesting game.... but hey ho, appropriating and enjoying selected bits of other people's misery seems the In Thing. Reminds me of the early victorians where being 'pale and interesting' was the fashion, and bored wealthy people with too much time on their hands played at having TB and languidly resting on couches. Plus ca change.

Pet peeve of mine too, people quoting spoon theory when they don't have a chronic illness for which is was coined to describe. I do, and it's pretty insulting to have physically healthy people tell me they don't "have the spoons for that today" when they mean they can't be bothered. Angry
SunsetBeetch · 25/02/2021 07:42

Seach #pluralgang if you really want to rage and despair at some pure narcissism.

SunsetBeetch · 25/02/2021 07:36

Ugh. Can't believe that there are people DEFENDING Labelle on twitter. Of course it's "transphobia" and "queerphobia". I don't think making a link between trans and queer people and creepy baby animal diaper art and "littleism" is going to help the T or Q gain acceptance, somehow.

SunsetBeetch · 25/02/2021 07:33

@FromEden

Um, what? Am I reading it correctly that DID , a debilitating condition which is usually caused by extremely serious childhood abuse and neglect (like the absolute worst things imaginable)is now part of the "umbrella" that people can identify into? WTAF.

It really is a slow pushing of the boundaries isn't it?

Yes and yes.
FromEden · 25/02/2021 07:30

Um, what? Am I reading it correctly that DID , a debilitating condition which is usually caused by extremely serious childhood abuse and neglect (like the absolute worst things imaginable)is now part of the "umbrella" that people can identify into? WTAF.

It really is a slow pushing of the boundaries isn't it?

SunsetBeetch · 25/02/2021 07:17

@Kettlingur

What is really grim is that apparently Labelle has searched the internet for actual images of infants and used them as material to draw pictures of fur babies in diapers. Labelle admits this.
Omfg.
MichelleofzeResistance · 24/02/2021 22:07

Baffled incidentally that this thread is standing but the lesbian thread got deleted as 'not in the spirit'.

Confused

There just isnt enough glue in the world to get my head around all this.

PotholeParadies · 24/02/2021 21:53

It's all coming out on twitter, I see. Envy

Kettlingur · 24/02/2021 21:44

What is really grim is that apparently Labelle has searched the internet for actual images of infants and used them as material to draw pictures of fur babies in diapers. Labelle admits this.

MichelleofzeResistance · 24/02/2021 21:26

It is being treated like an identity, rather than what it really is - a serious and often debilitating mental health condition.

I nearly went round the bend a few years ago when I discovered that chronic fatigue had become a fashionable identity, with much playing at pacing and 'spoons'. Those of us who live with it 24/7 instead of finding it an interesting game.... but hey ho, appropriating and enjoying selected bits of other people's misery seems the In Thing. Reminds me of the early victorians where being 'pale and interesting' was the fashion, and bored wealthy people with too much time on their hands played at having TB and languidly resting on couches. Plus ca change.

nauticant · 24/02/2021 19:54

One grimly amusing thing about this is that the only surprise people have expressed is in the fact that actual evidence was found (confirming what many people concluded years ago).

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 24/02/2021 19:17

@lunar1

I've been teaching female and male catheterisation for years, did somebody redesign the clitoris on my week off???
It is fascinating, of course, that it's been redesigned to be adjacent to the anatomy and dual functionality of one sex.

I can't think of the number of times it would be necessary to catheterise a metoidioplasty - it would be more than a little invasive to establish whether there'd been the requisite urethral lengthening to allow it to be used for urine. Otherwise, I'd think that it would be a metoidioplasty and catheterise as per convention.

There are going to be some interesting amendments to teaching modules…

letmeadoreyou · 24/02/2021 19:05

DID is definitely 'popular' on social medias such as Tik Tok right now. It is being treated like an identity, rather than what it really is - a serious and often debilitating mental health condition.

MichelleofzeResistance · 24/02/2021 18:23

I would wonder about whether there's a shared meaning of 'teacher'. I've known lunchtime supervisors, occasional assistants and volunteers refer to themselves that way, it doesn't by any means always mean someone with a teaching qualification and associated level of training. Rather like DID here is being used in a rather generous sense.

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