Lord Hunt in HoL today [Edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

I wrote and had a response this morning, (brief but to the point). Here's the link, good to support those who take the time and trouble to defend our rights.

www.theyworkforyou.com/peer/13353/lord_hunt_of_kings_heath

@showmethegin

Here is another, shamelessly nicked from Kelly-Jay's youtube again:
Baroness Grey Thompson

But for me, these words from her were the most gripping, and I'd say, chilling:

My Lords, I thought long and hard about joining the debate today and whether I could deal with any potential backlash that would come my way for saying that the word Woman should be in this bill. Many from different viewpoints have said that I should be careful. This is not the time to debate the wider aspects of what freedom of speech means...

Careful?? Backlash?? For talking about the word 'Woman'??

We have picked out a 'Baker's Dozen' of speeches from across the political spectrum. The common thread is that they all spoke up for women. Linked in order of speaking:

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1364205904560848903.html

Magnificent speech!

showmethegin I hope your battle leads you to answers & medics who show the same compassion as Lord Winston

I am treating myself to one of the videos every so often & it’s wonderful (albeit utterly ridiculous that it is iyswim). I will write to them all.

Thank you for sharing those links. I've just listened to Baroness Nicholson's speech, concluding with her protest, to quote her, against the bill's 'misgendering of women'.

Here here.

I've been watching these speeches over the course of the morning. Some really excellent speakers and brilliant to hear many unapologetically standing up for women.

V moving testimony from Robert Winston. So wonderful to hear him standing up for women

This is wonderful.

Why do they feel that they have to say that?? Why can't someone tell it straight, and just say 'I am sorry that i was led, by my kindness, up a gum tree, and we now have to unravel the unholy mess we have made'??

I can see a point behind it, for people who are new to the debate it shows that not everyone who refuses to support Stonewall and Self ID is a raving bigot, contrary to a lot of what they might read.

Because, I'd agree (as has been said many times on MN) that the majority of people in this country do not agree with self ID and the insistence on trans inclusive language. However, I'm not sure it's right to say that the majority of those people will be doing that due to concern over women's rights and their erasure. For a lot of people, it will just be an extension of going "Oh this is ridiculous!" at anything and everything they deem "woke".

So, I think it's good to demonstrate that there are left wing people and socially liberal who support GC viewpoints. They shouldn't HAVE to defend themselves in this way but it might help get rid of the viewpoint that anyone who doesn't say TWAW is "the straight, white, rich, conservative man" or religious extremists or the sort of person who grumbles that they "can't say anything anymore" when they're asked not to comment on their colleagues breasts.

@RozWatching Yes I was shocked when I read it, I've attached a screenshot below. It's outrageous

Lord Winston, speaking a bit later in the debate (thx to Kelly-Jay for putting on youtube):

i know, we're just women and we get all emotional about this stuff. But I was in tears listening to this.

I suspect Lord Hunt won't be Labour for very much longer. Lord Moonie was hounded out for hosting the First Do No Harm event, which wasn't even public.

Why do they feel that they have to say that?? Why can't someone tell it straight, and just say 'I am sorry that i was led, by my kindness, up a gum tree, and we now have to unravel the unholy mess we have made'??

Yes! This is the crux of the problem. Politicians seem to think that they can't even mention women without apologising. They really have lost the plot.

And do they think Stonewall = the whole LGBT+ 'community'? If so, they need to broaden their horizons, and same with women's orgs, eg Fawcett Society is too selective about whose voices count:

mforstater.medium.com/the-fawcett-society-shutting-women-up-in-the-name-of-feminism-5d4bbc1b907

I know. I would really like a thread where we just collect the 'I'm not a bad person/here's my credentials for not being evil' disclaimers.

It is wonderful to see Lord Hunt and the others speak so clearly and with such grasp of the issues. It's also very noticable: all they are saying is that women and sex based rights matter too . All they are requiring is equality of consideration and representation. And that's something they have to be concerned over the consequences of.

We live in insane times.

@thirdfiddle
Baroness Sheila Noakes;
speech here:
parliamentlive.tv/event/index/0ca59b7f-0018-470a-851a-ce1562544ec5?in=15:17:45&out=15:26:30

Yes they both spoke brilliantly, but- (there's always a 'but')
Why does everyone feel that they have to give a sop to the other side?
Baroness Noakes (at about 15:21:22) says:
'i am proud of my own record on LGBT issues...'

and Lord Hunt (Labour)
'... My Lords, I have supported trans rights and gay rights over many years, i fought the iniquities of section 28, I took through the legislation allowing for gay adoption in this house as a minister...'
(about 1:40 on the attached video)

Why do they feel that they have to say that?? Why can't someone tell it straight, and just say 'I am sorry that i was led, by my kindness, up a gum tree, and we now have to unravel the unholy mess we have made'??

Incredible speech.

I wonder if he as a labour peer is aware that Labour have changed sex definitions for Labour members. I joined up as sex "female" and this has been changed without my consent to gender identity in my details section.

I started a thread about it here

Labour and gender identity www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4173500-labour-and-gender-identity

Great great speech

Bizarre that it even has to be made though

If Lord Hunt is not related to Jeremy Hunt is he related to Baronness Ruth Hunt.

What di happen to her. Is she silently snuggled up in her ermine?

Does anyone know how we can find out?

That speech definitely touched all the right buttons. I hope it has some real impact but looking at the ministers face, I fear not.

Lord Hunt - thank you

Please use WriteToThem.com to write to him, to Estelle Morris and to Tanni Grey-Thompson to thank them.

OhHolyJesus Me too! And emailing my fence sitting splintered Arse Tory mp with a question as to whether he’s heard the speeches. When I emailed him about this last week he whinnied gently about gender neutral language. Considering he’s been very high in the party I was somewhat surprised by his inability to think. Mind you it may explain why he’s just a seat warmer for the party now. Not the likely reason but it will console me.