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Lord Hunt in HoL today [Edited by MNHQ at OP's request]

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 22/02/2021 19:49

Standing up for women's rights and language.
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FindTheTruth · 03/03/2021 07:18

I'm a lesbian and from the day 14 years ago, when I saw a thriving women's organisation destroyed by the demands of a single angry transwoman who demanded total capitulation, I've been trying to warn everyone about what's happening. I've spent the last decade shedding friends who agree with me in private but feel obliged to denounce me as a heretic in public

Thanks for sharing this Shed. They mentioned 'review of policymaking' in the speeches, and I really hope this happens. Calling lesbians hateful for being lesbians and wanting lesbian only spaces, is lesbophobic.

The whole private/public thing is a massive thing - my guess is what? 95% too scared to speak out? I think most people are reasonable and have empathy. but this authoritarian version of queer theory masquerading as LGBT hurts LGB people and T friends who dare to challenge the orthodoxy.

FrancesGumm · 03/03/2021 07:06

I watched them all - fantastic speeches.

I went out and bought thank you cards and sent them off to them all - first time I’ve done that but I was very moved.

SmallPug · 26/02/2021 15:36

Likewise, I emailed quite a lot of those who spoke up yesterday and have already had 3 lovely replies.

Emails are [email protected] and I am sure they appreciate hearing from us.

showmethegin · 26/02/2021 14:23

I wrote an email to Lord Hunt and received a response in about an hour! Amazing. I am so pleased people are standing up for women and will make a point of writing to all those that did.

DdraigGoch · 24/02/2021 04:51

@MaudTheInvincible

I'm not usually a fan of the HoL, but right now seeing the advantages of having a independent, experienced, un-sackable second house.

Yes. I'm having to have a rethink on the value of the HoL too.

Yes, the House of Lords is there to provide a sensible voice with (in theory) no vested interests to revise laws for the benefit of the national interest while the occupants of the Commons chase around after the latest Twitter fad. This is why reform for its own sake is best discouraged, it can lead to unintended consequences.
Rupertbeartrousers · 24/02/2021 00:08

What amazing, compassionate speeches Daffodil

showmethegin · 23/02/2021 23:14

I said the same @BaronessWrongCrowd. I am so sorry for your loss Thanks I was GC before but after my most recent miscarriage, which was horrifically traumatic I am even more certain. No man has ever or will ever have to go through what I and women everyday go through. It felt almost primal.

I will fight for women always and make no apologies for it

BettyFilous · 23/02/2021 20:05

Those speeches were wonderful. Thank you everyone for posting links.

Datun · 23/02/2021 18:48

@CookEatRepeat

Wonderful. Those speeches do give hope don't they.
They really do.

There are a whole bunch of adults, in positions of considerable power, who have allowed some common sense to explode all over The House.

CookEatRepeat · 23/02/2021 18:24

Wonderful. Those speeches do give hope don't they.

malloo · 23/02/2021 18:15

That's cheered me up :)

AllDoneIn · 23/02/2021 17:59

Wonderful speech.

BaronessWrongCrowd · 23/02/2021 17:46

@oldwomanwhoruns

Lord Winston, speaking a bit later in the debate (thx to Kelly-Jay for putting on youtube):

i know, we're just women and we get all emotional about this stuff. But I was in tears listening to this.

Lord Winston's speech brought me to tears. Having had a miscarriage very recently it was the words "I don't feel a proper woman." very much resonated. I've said those exact words to my DH, I felt a failure that I couldn't keep my baby alive.

Woman means something. It's what we are. I'm sick of being told we have to budge over, be kind or accommodating. I find it insulting.

Dalyesque · 23/02/2021 17:40

Has the other thread on baroness Noakes beenpulled for some reason?

MaMaLa321 · 23/02/2021 17:21

I especially enjoyed Lord Hunt. It was very useful that he took pains to point out that this level of policy capture has happened under a Conservative government. I despise Labour for it's approach, but he made a very important point.

Mystraightenersarebroken · 23/02/2021 17:10

Working my way through the list of speakers, listening to them and sending thank you emails. Already had personal responses from Lord Hunt and Baroness Grey-Thompson.

LastRoloIsMine · 23/02/2021 16:53

I was actually moved to hear so many stand and fight for womens rights.
100 years of fighting in this country and we still have to do it.

Women matter.
Women are not birthers, menstruation, cervix havers or chest feeders. Our rights are not up for debate.

Lifeaintalwaysempty · 23/02/2021 16:38

That was wonderful thank you for sharing

RozWatching · 23/02/2021 16:20

That is appalling Angry
I remember her speech on toilet provision, it was very brave and personal.

Who do these people think they are, the Mob? Disgraceful behaviour.

MichelleofzeResistance · 23/02/2021 16:14

threatened in a 'watch out for your safety, we're gonna get you' sort of way

Why is this appalling, criminal behaviour tolerated?! That person should have been very publicly removed from post. We now do government by playground/gangsta bullies with threats do we? Wtaf is going on in Westminster?

showmethegin · 23/02/2021 16:14

Thank you @Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons And thank you for sharing that @oldwomanwhoruns

Isn't it refreshing to hear common sense and respect for women spoken about openly in the corridors of power, and isn't it depressing that it's shocking!

The last two days have really made me reconsider my prior feelings towards the HoL!!

MaudTheInvincible · 23/02/2021 15:32

I heard through Labour Party channels that after she had spoken in the debate about toilet provision and the dangers for disabled women in mixed sex loos, Baroness Grey Thompson was approached and threatened in a 'watch out for your safety, we're gonna get you' sort of way by a female member of the HoL

Right side of history ConfusedHmm

persistentwoman · 23/02/2021 14:27

Heartwarming to hear men and women speaking out in favour of the language of women.
Lovely comment Shedbuilder Flowers I'm not surprised to hear about allegations of threats against Baroness Grey Thompson - tbh, when do we ever hear about respect and listening from one side of this debate?

Shedbuilder · 23/02/2021 14:22

Thank you Lords Hunt and Wilson and Baronesses Noakes, Nicholson, Grey Thompson and others whom I've missed. Like so many other women here, your speeches have made me weep. I'm a lesbian and from the day 14 years ago, when I saw a thriving women's organisation destroyed by the demands of a single angry transwoman who demanded total capitulation, I've been trying to warn everyone about what's happening. I've spent the last decade shedding friends who agree with me in private but feel obliged to denounce me as a heretic in public. My sister won't speak to me because of my 'horrifying' views. Thank you for stepping up and saying loudly and publicly what I have been saying for more than a decade.

I'm particularly moved by Baroness Grey Thompson's involvement. I heard through Labour Party channels that after she had spoken in the debate about toilet provision and the dangers for disabled women in mixed sex loos, Baroness Grey Thompson was approached and threatened in a 'watch out for your safety, we're gonna get you' sort of way by a female member of the HoL. I hope it's apocryphal but if true I hope in time this person's name will be revealed and we'll know who thinks it's appropriate to go round threatening disabled people. Power to you all. There is an army of silenced women behind you.

MichelleofzeResistance · 23/02/2021 14:10

[quote ConservativesForWomen]We have picked out a 'Baker's Dozen' of speeches from across the political spectrum. The common thread is that they all spoke up for women. Linked in order of speaking:

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Thank you! Flowers

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