Page 2 | Sex in the Census 2021 website launched; 3 part action plan

ConservativesForWomen · 2021-02-21T10:01:19+00:00

[[https://sexinthecensus.org]] "The census has always asked “What is your sex”? We believe that people should answer the census accurately and honestly. We think that this is the best way to collect the information needed to understand the population and to plan and fund public services. Counting the number of male and female citizens is vital for the census, and because the census sets the standard for other data-collection across society." The website has a 3 stage action plan, a comprehensive set of FAQs, and a useful resources section that provides more background. 15 groups collaborated on this campaign and clicking on their logos on the home page takes you direct to the individual website of each organisation. Hope some of you find it useful.

SultanaSofa · 06/03/2021 18:09

I've received my household access code. Have hidden it away, and am awaiting the paper form I requested.

NoraEphronsNeck · 06/03/2021 15:56

@Ritasueandbobtoo9

Dear RS&B2

Thank you for your email about the 2021 national census.
Let me say at once that I am entirely in agreement with the tenor of your remarks in all areas and I share your indignation at what is proposed.
Sadly, much of what Welsh Government does is driven by their ‘woke’ agenda which pervades so many aspects of society and much of their thinking from sex and gender to statutes and from climate change to being a nation of sanctuary. Being seen to be ‘woke’ appears to be of overriding importance.
I can assure you that I will continue to oppose this agenda, both within and without the Senedd, and I just wish there was more support from colleagues but, sadly, because of the distorted electoral system which gives Labour a majority despite winning only a third of the vote, the views of those elected frequently does not reflect the view of the general public.
With best wishes,
Yours sincerely,
MS

I'm in Wales too, would love to know which MS that was if you wanted to dm me - no worries if not obviously

NoraEphronsNeck · 06/03/2021 15:36

@TheShadowyFeminist

Boycott. Nothing less will have any real impact.

At what point does it become clearer that the loss of the integrity of the census is as serious as it gets in terms of how significant the impact across so many areas will be.

It's like there's simply no appetite to either get serious or show solidarity to make the prosecution of 1000's of women as difficult as possible.

But then, I'm not a 'leader' with a stake in monetising women's concerns am I? They'll happily take our cash, but not even contemplate disruption tactics when it gets to the crunch.

I agree that boycott would be the most efficient way to make an impact.

And then possible class actions to fight any subsequent fines.

MPs are just brushing it off but (hopefully hundreds of) thousands of households not completing it will make a mockery of the whole thing.

MenaiMna · 06/03/2021 11:36

Great! Received my papers yesterday and have been hoping for a resource like this!

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 06/03/2021 11:25

@Gurufloof Ah of course 🤦‍♀️, makes sense now, thank you

Gurufloof · 05/03/2021 18:38

@MummBraTheEverLeaking

I've ordered a paper one too. Sorry if I'm being thick but I thought it was just one census form to complete for everyone in the house (me, DD and DH) right?

The FAQs on the site mention individual censuses and household ones??

I think it's a privacy thing. We dont all live with family so we may not want our details shared among other house mates. So afaik if you want it's one person fills in for household or separate for each person.

Diaryofamadwoman · 05/03/2021 15:09

If the judicial review is on the 9th does anyone know how long we will have to wait to hear the outcome?

MummBraTheEverLeaking · 05/03/2021 11:17

I've ordered a paper one too. Sorry if I'm being thick but I thought it was just one census form to complete for everyone in the house (me, DD and DH) right?

The FAQs on the site mention individual censuses and household ones??

Gurufloof · 05/03/2021 08:01

@MsFogi

Great to see there is a coherent plan - I will certainly be doing this.

I'm doing it too, just with more people than actually live here. All extras will be women, with the same letter.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 05/03/2021 05:53

@Olderstyle1

Hello RitaSue... interesting reply from your MS. Shame they lumped in climate change and sanctuary cities though. Are they UKIP gammons perchance?

Nice to get an honest response not “this is controversial so while I do agree I can’t say anything in public”type response. I am an eco warrior though 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

MsFogi · 05/03/2021 00:12

Great to see there is a coherent plan - I will certainly be doing this.

Olderstyle1 · 04/03/2021 23:27

Hello RitaSue... interesting reply from your MS. Shame they lumped in climate change and sanctuary cities though. Are they UKIP gammons perchance?

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 04/03/2021 22:09

Dear RS&B2

Thank you for your email about the 2021 national census.
Let me say at once that I am entirely in agreement with the tenor of your remarks in all areas and I share your indignation at what is proposed.
Sadly, much of what Welsh Government does is driven by their ‘woke’ agenda which pervades so many aspects of society and much of their thinking from sex and gender to statutes and from climate change to being a nation of sanctuary. Being seen to be ‘woke’ appears to be of overriding importance.
I can assure you that I will continue to oppose this agenda, both within and without the Senedd, and I just wish there was more support from colleagues but, sadly, because of the distorted electoral system which gives Labour a majority despite winning only a third of the vote, the views of those elected frequently does not reflect the view of the general public.
With best wishes,
Yours sincerely,
MS

Lysistra65 · 04/03/2021 21:58

I donated to the court case. Got email saying they have made the full amount. There will be more court cases you can bet.

Lysistra65 · 04/03/2021 21:56

We got a paper letter telling us to do the census online. We rang up the freephone number on the letter & asked for a paper copy of the census. Then we can write what we think on it. EG I am of the FEMALE sex & he is of the MALE sex. Not gender. We don't' identify,' we just are.

Olderstyle1 · 04/03/2021 21:50

You can add a 'sex not gender' comment in the free text box alias - they'll ignore that too but it's still better than nowt.

Raiders I think it's too late to donate to that campaign but there will be others! Please participate in this SexintheCensus campaign in the meanwhile - FPFW are supporting it as part of the general pushback.

aliasundercover · 04/03/2021 21:39

I just filled mine in online. The gender for the gender question I ticked 'no' (eg I don't have the same gender I was born with) and wrote in the box: I do not understand what gender means.

It'll probably just count as a 'no', and it was a bit pointless, but I couldn't think of another honest way to answer.

Gurufloof · 04/03/2021 21:31

As per my previous post, I've managed to order 4 for one house and 5 for the other. Gonna be a lot of women in these houses.

RaidersoftheLostAardvark · 04/03/2021 19:56

I appear to be too late to assist with this FPFW appeal - is there a way of supporting them directly? I can't find a link on their website, can you only assist via specific campaigns?

Olderstyle1 · 04/03/2021 19:13

Just met up online with some terfy friends and we have agreed to follow the campaign plan since, as others have said, if enough of us do so it will create waves (albeit small ones) and will get media coverage.

Some of us will be adding a local suffragette's name to the 'Visitor' section; some will decorating the neighbourhood with purple, white and green ribbons + sex in the census stickers; some of us have more dubious intentions. And we have all committed to persuade at least two other households to take part in the campaign.

Every push-back, however small, against the erosion of biological reality has got to be better than screaming in to the void.

SirSamuelVimes · 04/03/2021 18:37

@Angelwings77

SorryAuntLydia How strange. Maybe someone knows you are a secret GC feminist

I didn't see it until my gc DD had opened it and declared 'fuck that don't put me on it I'll sleep in the stables that night' and my gc DP had flicked through it and said 'just write FUCK OFF across every page, I'd rather pay the fine'
Maybe they do know after all

I like the sound of your DP

Xanthangum · 04/03/2021 18:36

an FOI on the ONS decision making meetings where this issue was discussed would be a good idea.

Hear hear

Angelwings77 · 04/03/2021 18:29

SorryAuntLydia
How strange. Maybe someone knows you are a secret GC feminist

I didn't see it until my gc DD had opened it and declared 'fuck that don't put me on it I'll sleep in the stables that night' and my gc DP had flicked through it and said 'just write FUCK OFF across every page, I'd rather pay the fine'
Maybe they do know after all

Gurufloof · 04/03/2021 18:11

I just tried to order paper ones but there seems to be a limit, anyone know how many I can order online? I planned for 15 or so women in this house and another 11 in another house I own. Will happily phone and order more if it's a paltry limit online.

SorryAuntLydia · 04/03/2021 17:42

@Angelwings77

I had a paper copy arrive in the post today and I didn't ask for one to be sent (I'd planned on waiting to the last minute to ask) so are they randomly posting paper copies anyway?

How strange. Maybe someone knows you are a secret GC feminist