Sex in the Census 2021 website launched; 3 part action plan

Given Ian Diamonds comments on the Andrew Marr show, this seems worth a shot

It is illegal to fill it in incorrectly. We expect them not to hedge the sex question by using the guidance to say sex on legal documents. Passport and driver's licence can be updated by self ID. It will not therefore be illegal to put an incorrect legal sex without a GRC.

The census does ask ‘what is your sex?’

What do you expect them to do, go round policing whether or not people put the sex that matches their passport?

Please please please don't botch your data in protest. It completely undermines our arguement. We need robust data, that is the defense and FPFW are challenging the guidance that says 'any legal document.' If the guidance were altered to say legal sex (or even better birth sex), then all is good. The sex question is mandatory. The gender identity question is optional so just don't complete it if you don't have a gender identity. Let's leave it as late as possible and coordinate with a paper version as suggested on the website.

Where is the guidance to help me complete the census? I can't find it on ONS. I want to see what it says about Q3 do I can share with family and friends.

I thought the worry was that because they can change their sex on official documents at will, they will say they are female and that their gender is female, not that they'll say one of each and demonstrate that they are trying to be both.

Btw I'm not against trans things getting funding, but not to the detriment of women.

It occurs to me that on that basis, the more male people identify as female the better the provision for women ought to be.

Place marking

Trevor Phillips in the Times today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/82608b8c-7f6b-11eb-8dc5-6a6f238d9d27?shareToken=66d4431649768f4d5e3fd38043385db1

See image attached for the example on the website linked below:

Driver number (5): Driving licence number format explained.

JONES – Displaying first five letters of your surname. If surname is less than five characters in length, the remaining spaces will comprise of the digit 9.

849339 – First and last numbers are the year of birth. Second and third numbers are month of birth. (Note: in the case of female driving licence holders, ‘5’ is added to the second digit, this means that the second digit will be 5 or 6). The fourth and fifth digits are the day of the month of your birth.

TS – The first two initials of your forenames. If you have only one initial then the second character will be a ‘9’.

8AD – Computer check digits.

** – Licence numbers

www.drivercheck.co.uk/photocard-driving-licence-explained/

Sorry if I have missed something - can someone enlighten me about a couple of things: 1. the "asking for many paper copies" point; and 2. filling in more women than actually live here - what is this about/how and why do I do this?

There are still some man Friday peeps with m on their drivers license.
Is sex/gender on a driving licence? It's not on mine.

The impact would be greater if we waited for a field officer to call, and requested our paper copy at that point

Ah bugger, yes this would be better.
I think all my paper copies may be lost in the mail and I shall tell the nice census officer I wanted 14 for each house. I have yet to make up names for these women so if you have a funny/catchy/villainous/sarcastic type name, feel free to let me know.

First ever mumsnet post. Well first ever social
media post actually.

Thanks to all the brave people putting their head above the parapet and doing what they can to bring light to this and doing something about it. Whilst it may not be dramatic as some would hope, having a ‘Tianamen Square’ moment seems to do nothing to affect real change; if anything seeing how brutally authority comes down in dissenters is more likely to push people into the shadows and accept what is happening to them whether they agree or not. Grass roots movements that come with ‘smaller’ victories build up the courage of those of us who would otherwise stay quiet (certainly in my case). I’ll be joining and donating to all I can to support those actually doing something. I only wish I had their courage!

Paper copy on way, poised to write furious letter (sorry not bloody sorry), e mailing friends and family, and local MS.

Meanwhile..... biodegradable raffia (in suffragette colours of course!) labels, pens, friends ready to go and decorate the local area at the ready. Oh and a suffragette from my area lined up to be a 'guest' in my home when I complete the form. If I get questioned, I will point out that having a suffragette who passed 70 years ago as my visitor is as likely as a man saying he can claim to be a biological woman!!

Placemarking to read later... thanks all

census2021 has a paid partnership with pink news???

twitter.com/oliverburkeman/status/1368546452151164930?s=21

I’ve requested my paper copy and May decide to be superstraight too

Can someone who has done it please clarify - in the compulsory questions is it asking sex or gender?

I am happy obviously to tick my sex in the compulsory section but will not fill out if its asking my gender.

Is this the issue here?

@Ereshkigalangclegaliasundercover
I actually do think this paper copy and letter plan is worth doing. I think it will send a message to the ONS if lots of people request paper copies as they will want as many people to complete online as possible.

The impact would be greater if we waited for a field officer to call, and requested our paper copy at that point.

@aliasundercover
The gender for the gender question I ticked 'no' (eg I don't have the same gender I was born with)

Stonewall will be hoping that lots of people will tick ‘no’, to justify demands for increased funding.

I see the template letter is now available. I will not use it word for word, as I am not sorry in my objection. I do not believe in fake apologies. We should not be apologetic in wanting women to be safe.

I'm tempted to put 'superstraight' as my gender. Or religion.