Anti-FGM campaigner Hibo Wardere comes under attack

Hibo Wardere is perfectly entitled to focus on the key demographic who suffer from FGM i.e. girls and women predominantly from Africa.

Trans ideology is a very white, middle class, Western phenomenon. If you are female, no amount of pretending to be the opposite sex will protect you from FGM.
Hibo works hard to protect the bodies of girls, while trans ideology is the polar opposite - surgery on healthy body parts is celebrated and encouraged.

Trans men who are not evolution and biology deniers won't be upset by her focus because they know she is protecting all females under threat of FGM.

Keyboard bullies have nothing better to do except go around harassing women and pretending there are problems when there are none.
Let them put in the hard work and set up their own trans orgs to deal with FGM if they are that bothered.

Women are not obliged to pander to those who despise womanhood and deny the reality of what it means to be a woman in a man's world.

The implications for women from trans people are absolutely minuscule and most trans people I know are ardent supporters of equality in particular but of women specifically and have acted in support and as allies of women in ways that make them in my opinion fantastic human beings.

The issues faced by women from trans ideology and specifically TRAs has enormous implications for women far beyond the original intentions of it for achieving equality for trans people and many people who regularly seek to dominate and control women have seized upon it as the next available platform to enable them to do so. That is the issue Dadjoke

the eradication of the class sex class of women by including men in it is not a tiny marginalised issue

but you know this

@Notoriouslynotnotious

I don't think a campaigner against genital mutiliation should exactly be target number one for people who want language which is inclusive trans men. There are many better causes, and more transphobic individuals. Likewise, it surprises me that GC feminists spend so much of their time and energy against a tiny group of marginalised people, when there are other, more important issues to address.

Yes, it's trans exclusionary women rather than trans exlusionary men who get more attacked, and misogyny is at play there.

Dadjoke I am not sure that FGM is prolific in trans men given that it typically happens to very young girls.

But making FGM into a trans issue rather than an issue faced specifically by girls is all about dominating and controlling women who speak out about their needs by calling them terfs, yet another derogatory term created especially to put women down who are speaking up about issues faced by their sex. There are so many of those derogatory
slurs directed at women who would speak up about literally anything that affects them that one would almost be inclined to think their was a dominance hierarchy at play out there.

Have you read the thread.

She was asked to refer to FGM survivors as "cis women and girls" by a Westerner who didn't believe it happened to transboys either.

Then she was told to refer to women whose genitalia had been mutilated by their genitalia.

How incredibly insensitive would you have to be, to demand that?

The abuse I have seen Hibo receive is from people who object to her use of the word 'female'.

FGM happens to female children and if you remove that word it makes it a lot harder to define or discuss it as an issue.

Transmen may suffer from it, but it won't be because of their gender identity.

Transmen are almost universally white, western and Middle class. They are not in the demographic affected by Fgm.

This isn't about trans women. It's about the exclusion of trans men for no good reason. When she was asked to include trans men by a trans man, she said "Not interested, bye." Coming from someone who clearly believes trans men are women, that's pretty harsh.

Hey PotholeParadies I got an email Saturday to say my tshirt was on its way. The ordering and service has been excellent and as I said on the other thread I only paid £26.83, so not much over the UK price and that’s for delivery to Oz.
I’m really pleased that the pick up has been such that they’re doing another run.

Hibo is truely brave and an inspiration - I will wear my tshirt with pride.

This is so ridiculous. Surely FGM - along with things like pregnancy, cervical cancer etc. - is a prime example of exactly where it IS necessary to define women biologically. It developed, like most of the excesses of patriarchy, out of a desire to control the fertility of biological women. And you can't mutilate the clitoris of somebody who doesn't have one.

Thank you for posting this. I have just ordered her book 'Cut' as a small gesture of solidarity.

Hibo is such a star - I can't believe she gets grief about her campaign. I read her description of what happened to her - it is just mind boggling that anyone would want to stop her preventing this happening to other little girls!

I will look out for the t shirts - thanks Pothole

Just reviving this thread to let you know, firstly, that my t-shirt has arrived and it is beautifully soft. A real pleasure to wear.

Secondly, and more importantly, in response to popular demand, Hibo plans to relaunch the t-shirt campaign some time in the future. So watch this space for further news!

I know there’s a separate thread started about this, but thought I’d drop in here to say that Hibo is selling a t-shirt to raise funds for her work.

The t-shirt bears the slogan “I’m a woman get over it” and costs £25. It is only on sale for 2 weeks.

www.mercht.com/c/i-am-a-woman

This is her tweet promoting the sale twitter.com/hibowardere/status/1364234543021117440?s=21

@PotholeParadies Thank you for that video, I hadn't seen her speak before.
That woman is unbreakable, because she tells the truth.

What you said @JosieJarker is very insightful... " what happened damaged the mother daughter bond ...... that seems to be a feature of misoginistic cultures ".

*Ruined sex life, not seclude

reneejg.net/2017/08/mockery-of-fgm/

This is an interesting article about FGM. It talks about the social pressure on girls to be cut and how some even ask their mums to be cut without realising what they are asking for (pain, complications, infections, ruined seclude, etc, etc, etc). Apparently this social pressure and this almost indoctrination (everyone telling the girl how amazing and brave she is for asking to be cut) is something Hibo is fighting against as well.

The article makes the point that we are telling African “doctors” that they cannot perform FGM even if the girl asks for it as they don’t realise the consequences.

At the same time, trans activists are arguing that children under 18 are capable to ask for sex reassignment surgery.

I quoted a post from Saturday because it had made me think, and thus triggered the deletion of the post I quoted.

I called it right when I went back to see what had been deleted. I also replied but didn't quote.

All the people on the aromantic spectrum who are feeling oppressed, should be forced to watch that and then have a little rethink about what real oppression is, where it comes from and just how privileged they really are that the only thing they've got to feel oppressed about is aunty asking if they're dating anyone.

That is heartbreaking.
Its interesting that Hibo talks about the fact that what happened damaged the mother daughter bond so badly, unsurprisingly, its dawning on me that seems to be a feature of misoginistic cultures.
Anyone criticising this brave amazing woman needs to be deeply ashamed of themselves.
Its low.

Would you mind PM me the gist of the post ?

I am interested in what triggers there are.

I think it would really great if Hibo Wardere got asked on to Woman's Hour.

This is a video of her explaining what happened, face to face.

I quoted a post from Saturday because it had made me think, and thus triggered the deletion of the post I quoted.

What did I miss?

Wasn’t there a similar issue in Idaho? That a bill banning FGM was opposed by trans right activists?

Why do these people want to stop a bill which prevents forced mutilation of female genitalia? I find it frightening and sinister in equal measure.

Anyone who wants a doctor to operate on their own, healthy genitalia, go ahead. But leave the children alone!!