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Feeling really conflicted

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Tittie · 18/02/2021 23:28

I've been lurking on the GC threads for quite some time, but don't feel articulate enough to contribute, compared to some of the brilliant posters here!

I peaked about 2 years ago. I remember confidently describing Mumsnet as transphobic to my friend not long before that Blush I can't even remember what it was that changed my mind.

Anyway, there seems to be more and more coverage of trans/sex/gender issues in the media at the moment. It's making me incredibly uncomfortable that I find myself agreeing with newspapers, celebrities and politicians that I would ordinarily distance myself from (eg the Daily Mail). I am 100% gender critical, but I have this nagging doubt about who I am both agreeing and disagreeing with. Is anyone else feeling conflicted in this way?

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CatChant · 19/02/2021 01:15

No, not in the least. My opinions are arrived at independently, not because they are the tenets of any political party, ideology or section of the press.

I am glad to see any newspaper or broadcaster expose the erasure of women's rights we are suffering, whether on the right or the left. I also know that in some of the seemingly wholly captured titles there are many gender critical journalists in fear they will lose their jobs if they speak out.

That people are threatened with violence and/or the loss of their livelihoods for even daring to suggest there is a potential conflict of interest with women's rights makes it quite easy really. Book burners, death threat makers and opponents of free speech are never going to be on the side I want to join.

PotholeParadies · 19/02/2021 00:36

No, I don't feel.conflicted at all.

I know my views and how I reached them, and they are rooted in my views on how women are oppressed as a class, and my opposition to the marginalisation of women from ethnic minorities and women who have been subjected to sexual violence, my opposition to medical negligence being termed 'progressive' and my opposition to people treating me like a damned doormat.

Politics and philosophical conundra are not football matches. You don't decide what side you're on based on the shirt colour of the person saying it.

If the Daily Mail agrees with me, so what? The people at the Daily Mail also agree with me that the Earth orbits the Sun. I'm not going to start claiming the Sun orbits the Earth just to be on the opposite side to the Daily Mail.

Thingybob · 19/02/2021 00:32

Welcome OP. I agree there are some brilliant women on here but then there are also people like me, i.e.someone less articulate than you.

I don't have your reservations about who I'm agreeing/disagreeing with as I've never been 100% onboard with any media source, political party or individual. I prefer the pick and mix method for my beliefs, morals and politics and agreeing on one topic does not mean I agree on everything another person says.

alexk3 · 19/02/2021 00:28

If you are agreeing with people you think are bad people usually, then maybe it’s your perspective on trans people that needs to change

nocoolnamesleft · 18/02/2021 23:33

I am not agreeing with the daily fail. I am agreeing with stunning brave women who have opened my eyes to how biology is at the root of our oppression, and how gender is a tool of that oppression. If the daily fail occasionally speaks sense on the topic, well, anyone can have an outbreak of common sense.