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How many women (or men) identify as cisgender?

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hallouminatus · 17/02/2021 21:02

On another forum, I said "Most women don't identify as cisgender, and many feel that describing them as such is disrespectful". Someone has asked me for evidence of this. I think it's probably true, but I haven't seen any statistics or even estimates of numbers. I'm interested in any evidence or arguments which would either support or refute my statement.

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BobbinThreadbare123 · 17/02/2021 21:36

Cis and trans describe the position of Neptunian objects in our Solar system to me....

I don't subscribe to this regressive gender guff and I'm not some subset of woman. I just am one.

Thislittlefinger123 · 17/02/2021 21:36

Ps I'm surprised someone on the other side of the debate was asking you for evidence, evidence isn't really something they want to get into is it, that could lead them on a dangerous road to facts, and, you know, science Grin

Thislittlefinger123 · 17/02/2021 21:34

Female or woman. I don't need any other description, thanks and would strongly object to anyone calling me cis.

THIS

I already have a category. I'm an adult human female. Anyone that is also an adult human female is part of my category. Anyone that is not can find their own category, but refrain from trying to relabel mine thanks.

Shakirasma · 17/02/2021 21:34

I identify as Shakirasma
I happen to be born a biological female.
Woman is the word best to describe me. Not Cisgender or Ciswoman. Just woman, thanks.

LunaHeather · 17/02/2021 21:34

@WhoWants2Know

I certainly do not identify as cisgender because gender is bullshit. I am a biological female.
Same for me.
Weedsnseeds1 · 17/02/2021 21:32

Cis and trans describe the locations of hydrogen atoms relative to a double bond between carbon atoms to me.
I'm female.

Cuntysnark · 17/02/2021 21:31

Biscuitsanddoombar Agree. I’m a no.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/02/2021 21:31

Someone has asked me for evidence of this.

You could start a poll in AIBU? Or use the results of the recent one "AIBU that most people don't feel they have a gender identity" which out of 2600 odd votes was 91% YANBU.

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4158457-To-think-that-the-vast-majority-of-people-do-not-feel-they-have-a-gender-identity

HollowTalk · 17/02/2021 21:30

@Biscuitsanddoombar

Nope! I’m not a subset of woman because there’s only way to be a woman and that’s to be born a human female
That's exactly how I feel.
DontFuckItUp · 17/02/2021 21:28

I was born female and identify as a woman. So a woman. Not a CIS woman, that term would offend me.

midgedude · 17/02/2021 21:28

I think men may well .. wouldn't want their masculinity questioned

WhoWants2Know · 17/02/2021 21:27

I certainly do not identify as cisgender because gender is bullshit. I am a biological female.

BolloxtoGender · 17/02/2021 21:27

What absolute contrived rubbish Genderbread and Atonewall definitions are. Absolutely no resemblance to reality, and they teach this rubbish to children, no wonder they are confused.

WeeBisom · 17/02/2021 21:23

Cis gender means your gender identity matches your sex. The genderbread person graphic (used to teach people about trans identity, you can see it at genderbread.org) says that gender identity means where you are in terms of “manness” and “womanness” with facets of gender identity including personality traits, hobbies, jobs , likes , dislikes . As an example they say that women are caring , kind , like children, and like to work as nurses or teachers. Men are logical, strong, leaders who like to work in the military or as engineers. So, with all this in mind, no I’m not cis. I don’t think my gender identity is “woman” if woman is defined in such a stereotypical way. I know we are supposed to accept that “cis” just means natal female or not trans, but if you look at the stonewall definitions it seems to be much more than that. You have to have the “woman” gender identity and it has to “match” your sex. I find this whole concept of my personality having to match to be sexist guff.

corlan · 17/02/2021 21:21

I'd be amazed if most women had ever heard the term 'cisgender.' Most women don't ' identify' as anything. Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons that trans rights activists have made such gains - most women have very little idea that the category of 'woman' has been widened to include any man that 'identifies' as a woman.

Blibbyblobby · 17/02/2021 21:18

Nope. Deeply offensive to me. Denies my experience and self-knowledge and replaces them with the definition of women created by men.

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 17/02/2021 21:17

No one i know has ever referred to themselves or anyone else as cis

The one exception to this would be the mother of a trans child who might possibly use it but again ive never heard her say it

FrancesGumm · 17/02/2021 21:16

Same as GoldenBlue. I am a woman, an adult human female. I don’t want to be referred to as cisgender.

gingercatsarebest · 17/02/2021 21:16

I do not identify as cis And I object to being called cis

AmethystMoonShine · 17/02/2021 21:16

Don’t not bloody donor ffs! 🤦‍♀️

amy85 · 17/02/2021 21:16

Nope never and would be offended to be referred as a cis woman

AmethystMoonShine · 17/02/2021 21:16

No I donor used cis woman. Plain woman thank you.

Sidesaladofchips · 17/02/2021 21:14

I am a woman plain and simple. Born and bred. Sorry not signing up for these ridiculous made up terms.

GoldenBlue · 17/02/2021 21:14

I very strongly do not identify as CIS gender and would feel insulted if called CIS.

I am not a subclass of women, alongside men. I am a woman. It does not need any qualifier

BolloxtoGender · 17/02/2021 21:13

Most women don’t know what cisgender means, how disrespectful to assume the gender of and misgender a woman.

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