Page 17 | Fairplay for women take ONS to judicial review for redefining sex in census

FindTheTruth · 20/02/2021 07:02

It's in the Times!
does anyone have a sharelink?
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sex-question-on-census-challenged-by-campaigners-xctbxj6lm

SingingSands · 19/02/2021 23:51

Hello
Thanks for this link, I've dug.

Leafstamp · 19/02/2021 22:16

@Olderstyle1

51% of carrots planted.

And now the ONS (who don't seem to be very bright TBH) have put out two contradictory tweets in the space of 30 minutes, one that tells Clare that the sex question refers to 'what was recorded at birth' and the other that tells Ken that 'everybody will be able to identify as they wish'.

Is there something we should know about Ken?

What plonkers!

Olderstyle1 · 19/02/2021 21:04

51% of carrots planted.

And now the ONS (who don't seem to be very bright TBH) have put out two contradictory tweets in the space of 30 minutes, one that tells Clare that the sex question refers to 'what was recorded at birth' and the other that tells Ken that 'everybody will be able to identify as they wish'.

Is there something we should know about Ken?

Leafstamp · 19/02/2021 20:39

@HubertHerbert

You don’t need a GRC to change your passport. And the words “such as” are not helpful.

Have a read here:

fairplayforwomen.com/sex-in-the-census-our-legal-challenge-to-stop-the-ons-redefining-sex/

Wearywithteens · 19/02/2021 20:29

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EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 19/02/2021 20:18

Bump bump

HermioneWeasley · 19/02/2021 19:25

Bump

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fatblackcatspaw · 19/02/2021 19:21

yay 50% carrotts!!!

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persistentwoman · 19/02/2021 18:05

Half way there! In 2 days!

Lifeaintalwaysempty · 19/02/2021 18:03

Brilliant!

fastwigglylines · 19/02/2021 18:01

@Vargas

I'm astonished at the Twitter replies to FPFW about this, yet again claiming it's transphobic. How on earth can they claim that? Surely it can only be helpful to know the stats of the trans community in relation to the larger non-trans population??

It's not about reality though. For trans activists it's about validation and/or about removing sex as a category entirely in society.

I've seen transactivists arguing for blood donation by self ID even though an accurate record of sex is very important for donor blood as it could potentially kill a man if he uses donor blood from a woman who's ever been pregnant. It makes no sense at all.

Sillydoggy · 19/02/2021 17:11

I love gardening. We shouldn’t have to do it to protect our rights but thank goodness FPFW are prepared to stand up to the ONS.

Vargas · 19/02/2021 16:54

I'm astonished at the Twitter replies to FPFW about this, yet again claiming it's transphobic. How on earth can they claim that? Surely it can only be helpful to know the stats of the trans community in relation to the larger non-trans population??

CormorantStrike · 19/02/2021 16:52

greatpurplepolkadots I think the echo chamber of FWR gives us a false idea of how aware people are of these issues unfortunately - and allpicklemewalnuts is right that it isn't easy to share publicly. I've sent the link individually to people I trust but can't share openly on eg. twitter or facebook as I risk losing my job (as mad as that seems!).

greatpurplepolkadots · 19/02/2021 16:38

Thank you - that is very encouraging and I think what I needed to hear.

Toomie · 19/02/2021 16:32

But I am a bit sad that an issue this important isn't resonating more with the wider public.

I think that is that it's just not enough of a story yet to have been picked up widely by mainstream media.

Once the pre-action letter has been sent and the coalition website launched on Sunday I imagine it will get much wider attention. I certainly hope so.

Mrsmorton · 19/02/2021 16:30

I have gardened but I am so tired of gardening just to exist, and be recognised, and have my rights respected.

The struggle happens daily in work, it's now all around us. Just exhausting.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 19/02/2021 16:26

Just wiping my spade.

SomeonesRealName · 19/02/2021 16:22

Very close to halfway now!

picklemewalnuts · 19/02/2021 16:14

I don't imagine many of the wider public know a lot about it. It's not easy to share, given the vitriol from some entitled people. I've a few friends/family members who I just can't risk setting off.

greatpurplepolkadots · 19/02/2021 16:09

Perhaps I am being a bit naive but actually I'm slightly disappointed with the pace. In the context of the UK population it feels like quite a small % care enough to donate.

I have donated what is to me a good chunk and I don't begrudge it. But I am a bit sad that an issue this important isn't resonating more with the wider public.

Toomie · 19/02/2021 16:02

Donated too. Managed to find a surprisingly healthy looking parsnip in the veg drawer.

The knock-on effects of the ONS's decision on this are potentially huge. As others have said, the census questions are 'Gold Standard' and will have an effect on how other agencies abc official bodies collect data on sex and gender. It is not just about how a handful of people fill this in.
I have no idea about chances of success but I feel it's important to show solidarity and strength of feeling.
When I last looked a few minutes ago, only £600 to go till the halfway mark... it's all very heartening

chocolatecronetta · 19/02/2021 15:32

Yep, donated and shared on FB and on Twitter, this is so important.