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Fair Cop Court of Appeal 8-10 March

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Spero · 17/02/2021 10:49

Please save the date! This is such an important hearing for freedom of speech, particularly around the issues of sex and gender.

The hearing will be for 1 1/2 days some time between 8-10 March, we don't have an exact listing yet.

Hopefully there will be some live tweeting.

Do support if you can.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1361820204649639951?s=20

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 09/03/2021 15:54

I am watching too but I'm not sure that it is going well....?

There seems to be a discussion as to whether the police already have powers of discretion to dismiss and vet cases recorded as non-crime hate crime before recording it.

It seems as though they have to reach a very high bar to change the law. Some points seem very abstract and laboured.
Hoping for the best though.

outedbyfaircop · 09/03/2021 15:52

ahhhh yes fair cop, the twitter account that cares about children so much they exploit them at their lowest ebb for political clout. when my trans child ran away, his description was circulated by the police as a boy. because he looks and sounds like a boy. someone who knows me though (who has never come forward despite apparently caring very much about truth and honesty) decided that they know better than I/his friends (ie the people who had provided the police with photos of my child) how he looks and presents, leading to delightful tweets such as this appearing while he was still missing. thankfully I was unaware until after he had been found, but while he was still missing, my close friends, who were all very worried anyway, were dealing with the additional burden of whether/how to tell me that my family were at risk of being doxxed and targeted for transphobic hate. nice. I can totally see why such an organisation would get a hero's welcome on a parenting site.

Fair Cop Court of Appeal 8-10 March
Fair Cop Court of Appeal 8-10 March
Ninkanink · 09/03/2021 15:45

Solidarity!

🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/03/2021 15:30

I've been trying to watch but I really don't understand it - I'm hoping someone more knowledgeable from Fair Cop will summarise at the end of the day.

Signalbox · 09/03/2021 15:27

I hope they had lots of sleep or they'll be nodding off :D

Imnobody4 · 09/03/2021 15:17

I feel a bit sick. I can't make much sense of it but I get the feeling the judges can't either.

Signalbox · 09/03/2021 14:59

I've been listening to this. It's very dry and I'm struggling to follow. Think this will be a long afternoon :D

nauticant · 09/03/2021 14:02

Direct link to youtube:

Comments by randoms have been enabled! I'm not sure that's such a good idea.

PurpleHoodie · 09/03/2021 09:32

Thanks.

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Spero · 08/03/2021 18:43

I am hoping to be live tweeting!

Here is an update on the defamation issue.
www.faircop.org.uk/if-you-can-bear-to-hear-the-truth-youve-spoken/

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BoreOfWhabylon · 08/03/2021 14:54

Indeed. Context is all, as I'm sure Evarish must know. The snippets posted here were carefully selected.

JoodyBlue · 08/03/2021 11:26

@Spero - thank you for the context. Every story has a beginning, middle and an end and the chapters within usually only make sense in that order.

Signalbox · 08/03/2021 11:17

The Fair Cop twitter account is saying that this is tomorrow.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1368816007616344065

nauticant · 08/03/2021 11:12

From a post by Spero above:

I think this is significant - Fair Cop appeal has been deemed 'high profile and legally significant' so will be live streamed by the Court of Appeal at 2pm on March 9th.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 08/03/2021 11:08

Excellent. Does anyone know if someone will be live tweeting?

unwashedanddazed · 08/03/2021 11:05

Bumping as this is happening today.

Voice0fReason · 06/03/2021 22:18

Will definitely be tuning in.

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Spero · 06/03/2021 22:05

@Evarish

In light of We Are Fair Cop and Sarah Philimore specifically comparing LGBTQ+ people to Nazi's and telling a Jewish man he was responsible for the next Holocaust to the shame of his murdered family, is this still what you support?
funny how no one ever refers to how that conversation started isn't it? The anonymous person I was in conversation with boasted that he was burning JKR's books. I responded with the famous quote 'where they burn books they will burn people' and the conversation went from there.

I did not say he 'was responsible for the next Holocaust'. I said that he was taking steps down a road that would lead to something like it. And that his responses to those who challenged him were abusive and dehumanising. Another sign of steps down a particular road.

People do not have to like what I say. They are entitled to find it offensive. But equally they are not compelled to read what I say or engage with me. I do not come to your house and shout at you.

To make 'offence' the arbiter of what can or cannot be said is extremely dangerous - as we are all seeing. Harry Miller's case is about the right to be offensive. Because without offensive speech we are simply in thrall to whatever group has the most power at any particular time. Fine if you are happy with what the powerful group say. Not so fine if you don't.

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nauticant · 06/03/2021 21:15

I don't like, or agree with, any of those tweets but they don't say what you claim they're saying.

Be more honest in your arguments if you want to win people over to your point of view.

Evarish · 06/03/2021 20:58

@nauticant

If you post the evidence of this then we'll be able to make our own informed decisions. Is that all right with you Evarish?
And the lot of it started, of course, in defense of a cop who was a supporter of far right extremists such as Tommy Robinson, Harry Miller.
Fair Cop Court of Appeal 8-10 March
Fair Cop Court of Appeal 8-10 March
nauticant · 06/03/2021 20:46

If you post the evidence of this then we'll be able to make our own informed decisions. Is that all right with you Evarish?

Evarish · 06/03/2021 20:41

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BlackeyedSusan · 06/03/2021 19:52

Good luck.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 06/03/2021 19:40

PMK

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