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Sex attacker says he was making a political point

38 replies

Shedbuilder · 16/02/2021 23:35

This story was reported earlier today on the BBC but they've removed the accused's justification for the attacks — that he was making a political point when he attacked 12 women and girls because he doesn't believe that women should wear enticing clothes in public. He rode up behind women, grabbed their bums and called them whores.

Explaining his behaviour, Smith said: "It was not a sexual thing. I was making a political statement about women wearing leggings or something where you can see their pants. I think it's a form of sexual harassment around men.'

www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/man-admits-sexually-assaulting-12-19842475

I can't think of anything reasonable to say.

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despairenting · 17/02/2021 11:31

To be honest, I'm surprised (and glad) it's being taken seriously.

AtlasPine · 17/02/2021 10:32

The only good thing is that when I was a teen, it wouldn’t even have been seen as an offence. We have come some way at least.

Hideous man.

CranberriesChoccyAgain · 17/02/2021 10:32

Forgot to add, he's basically saying to women, how dare you show me what you have to offer but not actually offer it to meeeeeeee. Never crossed his mind that women aren't there to please or displease him. He is irrelevant to them and he can't stand that.

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2021 10:29

Just noting how it is a relief that we are able (I think) to say quite baldly and bluntly that this man is a fucking vile creep. Women need to be able to hear about, recognise and call out this type of behaviour for what it is, when it happens.

ArabellaScott · 17/02/2021 10:27

Well, what a fucking vile creep.

I hope the girls are okay. This kind of thing can sound so ludicrous when reported after the fact, but I imagine being on the receiving end could be really scary.

CranberriesChoccyAgain · 17/02/2021 10:26

"I absolutely did not wish for that bit (touching underage girls) to happen. I'm incredibly sorry that happened.

"They looked much older as they walked down the street. I was riding down the street and did not take time to look at them."

Looked at them long enough to determine their clothing/arse was enticing to him though, huh. What a fucking creep. Just one of a long line of misogynists who see women and girls as objects, body parts, and not actual human beings.

CorianderBee · 17/02/2021 10:04

Perhaps someone should repeatedly kick him in the balls as a political statement?

After all, men shouldn't be flaunting their penises in those sewn together tight skirts they call 'jeans'.

VampireTheBuffetSlayer · 17/02/2021 10:02

Wft are "enticing clothes"? Does he mean comfy clothes like leggings? Damn these women for having bottoms.

BreatheAndFocus · 17/02/2021 10:01

A political point??? What a pathetic defence!

So an arsonist can claim he was making the point that houses can be burnt down hence it’s their own fault; a burglar was making a political point that having windows allows them to be broken and things taken - yep, all the fault of the victims and jolly well done to the criminals making ‘political points’.

It’s not his job to police women’s clothing. It’s not anyone’s job. Who would possibly think it was?

WendyTestaburger · 17/02/2021 09:54

The political statement is something like "Women are not worthy of humanity in their own right; they belong to men".

This incel creep is clearly at the more dangerous end of the misogynist spectrum. But he's far from alone in making that statement.

TheSockMonster · 17/02/2021 09:49

I would have to add I would never do this again after this political statement

Well that’s ok then.

CaraDuneRedux · 17/02/2021 09:38

Though of course he bloody well should be ashamed of assaulting women, though he seems completely unrepentant of that, only embarrassed about the girls.

I doubt he's embarrassed about the girls, merely embarrassed someone called him a paedo.

Yes, terrifyingly likely to escalate, I fear.

HoldontoOneMoreDay · 17/02/2021 09:28

Incel.

But not a peodo incel.

Got it.

fuck this world. I'm done.

HermitsLife · 17/02/2021 09:21

Yeah this is incel talk. There will be men online valourising him. He needs to be kept as far away from women and girls as possible for as long as possible, if ever there was a candidate for escalation this is your guy.

SheGonBringThatAttitudeHome2 · 17/02/2021 09:14

@Lammergeier

"They were whores" is a fucking serial killer justification.

Yes. Wasn't that basically Sutcliffe's "defence"?

MedusasBadHairDay · 17/02/2021 09:12

Wanna take bets on whether he's a member of any incel groups?

SheGonBringThatAttitudeHome2 · 17/02/2021 09:12

I was very disappointed that Walesonline were not able to print a picture of this inadequate male.

I do hope we get one when he is sentenced.

Lammergeier · 17/02/2021 09:07

"They were whores" is a fucking serial killer justification.

Darcinian · 17/02/2021 08:52

@DoctorHildegardLanstrom

I always go to my setting people on fire example when these sort of things come along,

I was just setting them on fire to prove their clothes were flammable and dangerous.

I like this way of explaining it. I wish we could like.
ErrolTheDragon · 17/02/2021 08:46

@Tuesday2021

I don’t know the full story and absolutely DO NOT CONDONE his actions but I do disagree with naming and shaming when the guilty verdict has not been given. Can anyone enlighten me on what the outcome was?
You missed the part where he plead guilty? Confused Normal reporting of a crime, not 'naming and shaming'. Though of course he bloody well should be ashamed of assaulting women, though he seems completely unrepentant of that, only embarrassed about the girls.
QueenoftheAir · 17/02/2021 07:17

I can't think of anything reasonable to say.

There isn’t anything reasonable to say.

DoctorHildegardLanstrom · 17/02/2021 05:30

I always go to my setting people on fire example when these sort of things come along,

I was just setting them on fire to prove their clothes were flammable and dangerous.

wellthatsunusual · 17/02/2021 05:16

@Tuesday2021

I don’t know the full story and absolutely DO NOT CONDONE his actions but I do disagree with naming and shaming when the guilty verdict has not been given. Can anyone enlighten me on what the outcome was?
Man admits doing something terrible, boasts of it even. And someone comes along and says it's not fair to name and shame him. Unbelievable.
oldwomanwhoruns · 17/02/2021 05:09

Yup as @basedrops and @fallingirl said, the Hate crimes law needs repealing/amending, as females are not listed, so they can't commit 'hate crimes' against us. I've just written to my MP to try to get this changed, as how can we campaign, with the law in favour of, um, the other lot Angry

aweegc · 17/02/2021 03:12

I absolutely did not wish for that bit (touching underage girls) to happen. I'm incredibly sorry that happened.
"They looked much older as they walked down the street. I was riding down the street and did not take time to look at them.
"I'm really sorry about the underage bit. When she shouted 'paedo' down the street my heart sank and I fell to pieces. It became something different than I expected."

See those girls who look older than they actually are? How was I to know? I was just making a political statement by sexually assaulting random women who I only saw from behind. It wasn't my fault they were younger. And now, because they were, I'm feeling, like, really bad.

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