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Omid Djalili on women's rights issues - not funny at all

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derxa · 16/02/2021 19:01

mobile.twitter.com/omid9/status/1361739351911235591

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BaronessWrongCrowd · 19/02/2021 12:24

The man doth protests to much methinks. Deep down he knows he is in the wrong. Everyone keeps telling him he's acting like a prize prat but no he keeps on going because he's gone too far. He can't be seen as being wrong.

Oh well, I quite liked him and is a comedian I would quite happily see but now will now avoid because he's revealed himself to be a total bell end.

derxa · 19/02/2021 12:22

[quote WinterIsGone]On the subject of free speech, I just saw this LibDem twitter post regarding Layla Moran on QT Shock

Should free speech at universities be a priority right now? "Absolutely not"

mobile.twitter.com/LibDems/status/1362548170568433669[/quote]
I saw that as well. Completely bizarre. I think they should get rid of the word 'Liberal' from their title.

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merrymouse · 19/02/2021 12:22

He clearly neither knows nor cares who Selina Todd is, but assumes her experience must be irrelevant to the discussion. Only idiots would assume that a woman should be heard.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/02/2021 12:21

He absolutely knows what is going on, because of the glee at finding out that dr EM is gender critical. He’s perfectly aware that’s a free pass to a lefty bro to go after a woman and keep his hands clean.

Yes that's how I read it too.

SheGonBringThatAttitudeHome2 · 19/02/2021 12:17

untrammelled testeria came a close second.

SheGonBringThatAttitudeHome2 · 19/02/2021 12:16

The phrase whirlpool of dickery wins the internet today.

Sophoclesthefox · 19/02/2021 12:11

He absolutely knows what is going on, because of the glee at finding out that dr EM is gender critical. He’s perfectly aware that’s a free pass to a lefty bro to go after a woman and keep his hands clean.

Twitter spats are usually very boring, but something about this untrammelled testeria has reeled me in.

SunsetBeetch · 19/02/2021 12:10

@Oversize

Point 8 When someone points out that he's told some fairly 'off' jokes himself in the past, he appears to take the line I can't possibly be antisemitic because one of my mates is famously Jewish, tagging in said mate who sensibly keeps the fuck out of the whirlpool of dickery.
Whirlpool of dickery Grin

@TheCatThatGotTheCream you don't have to sign up to read tweets, just ignore the message and refresh or hit back and then click on the link again.

yourhairiswinterfire · 19/02/2021 12:07

''Only idiots took it to mean I meant Selina Todd.'

Mate, if you didn't want people to think you meant Selina Todd, maybe don't link to an article where Selina Todd is the only deplatformed person mentioned by name, whilst saying people don't want to listen to Nazis.

Hmm
Omid Djalili  on women's rights issues  - not funny at all
nauticant · 19/02/2021 12:04

shows he knows nothing about the debate

This is often put forward as a position that can be modified or abandoned at no cost. It's not always true. It's often a "run with the hare and hunt with the hounds" position.

BabyItsAWildWorld · 19/02/2021 11:59

His glee at 'Oh DrEm is anti trans?? this should be interesting!' shows he knows nothing about the debate.
He's also now upsetting the TRAs by saying he'd have retwetted DrEms thread.

He's all over the place, and has no idea what he's wandered into and is too arrogant to stop and find out.

He doesn't seem able to think:
When I said Nazis? who did I mean? I guess I meant people who are de platformed.
Oh seems many of them are women. I didn't reda the articel did I?
Oh dear I seem to have implied a load of women are Nazis.
That's not a great look.
I wonder why women are being de platformed?
Maybe I should find out...

TheCatThatGotTheCream · 19/02/2021 11:57

I don't know anything about this, I can't click the twitter link as it asks me to sign up. All I will say is that as a man, his opinion on womens rights doesn't matter.

WinterIsGone · 19/02/2021 11:44

On the subject of free speech, I just saw this LibDem twitter post regarding Layla Moran on QT Shock

Should free speech at universities be a priority right now? "Absolutely not"

mobile.twitter.com/LibDems/status/1362548170568433669

Darcinian · 19/02/2021 11:41

Quite the mantrum.

Oddly hypnotic.

Slow motion car crash.

Self-destruct level 100 has been unlocked.

Tombero has it right he has proved the point he was trying to disprove.

Helmetbymidnight · 19/02/2021 11:41

3 He didn't say only Nazis but did say Nazis. (I think)

5 He also called a woman he didn't agree with a bot.

And yeah, as PP have pointed out, I don't think he's as unaware of gender politics as it might seem.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/02/2021 11:35

A twitter tantrum lasting days in which he makes clear he's targeting one woman and goes looking for evidence to support a "see, I told you she was a witch" stance.

Yes, exactly.

Oversize · 19/02/2021 11:33

Point 8
When someone points out that he's told some fairly 'off' jokes himself in the past, he appears to take the line I can't possibly be antisemitic because one of my mates is famously Jewish, tagging in said mate who sensibly keeps the fuck out of the whirlpool of dickery.

merrymouse · 19/02/2021 11:19

@Tombero

Hi, I haven’t posted here before, but I’ve been lurking a lot.

I wanted to check I’m understanding this all correctly (genuinely, not with faux innocence):

1 An alarming number of women have been ‘cancelled’ for expressing GC views. This stops there being a rational debate.

2 The Government call for a change in legislation in order to support free speech.

3 A comedian tweets the article claiming it distracts from bigger things (I disagree with that as I find I can hold a number of thoughts in my head at one time). He also says it’s only Nazis being cancelled.

4 A number of people try to explain point 1 to him.

5 He calls people Adolf, Eva, Nazi etc, threatens to sue and instigates a pile on and is gleeful to learn the person he is targeting is GC.

Thereby giving a textbook example of point 1 and proving why point 2 is necessary?

Pretty much.
nauticant · 19/02/2021 11:18

There are also points 6 and 7 (among others):

  1. When this wasn't working he claimed his tweets had just been jokey banter.
  1. A twitter tantrum lasting days in which he makes clear he's targeting one woman and goes looking for evidence to support a "see, I told you she was a witch" stance.
SirVixofVixHall · 19/02/2021 11:15

@BarbaraofKent

The bizarre thing is he could have just said 'sorry, I didn't read the article properly, I was wrong to refer to the people in the article as Nazis, apologies' and that would have been it, finished.

This is all stemming from the fact that he didnt want to admit that he didn't read an article before tweeting it.

This. I used to like him, he is not coming across well here, he is just digging himself further into a hole and looks like an idiot.
SirVixofVixHall · 19/02/2021 11:14

@krustykittens

Does anyone feel we are going backwards in terms of women's rights? Rape is practically de-criminalised, we don't have equal pay, women dying every week at the hands of their partners and now we can't even say that our sex exists as a biological fact without being the targets of physical and verbal abuse. I have lost two friends over this because they believe that anyone who disagrees that transwomen are women is a hateful bigot who doesn't have the right to breath (paraphrasing but you get the gist). Universities are amongst the worst for fostering this attitude and there is no debate. We are just expected to hand over our sex-based, hard won rights without a murmur and just be grateful we are allowed to exist.
Yes. We are going backwards.
Tombero · 19/02/2021 11:11

Hi, I haven’t posted here before, but I’ve been lurking a lot.

I wanted to check I’m understanding this all correctly (genuinely, not with faux innocence):

1 An alarming number of women have been ‘cancelled’ for expressing GC views. This stops there being a rational debate.

2 The Government call for a change in legislation in order to support free speech.

3 A comedian tweets the article claiming it distracts from bigger things (I disagree with that as I find I can hold a number of thoughts in my head at one time). He also says it’s only Nazis being cancelled.

4 A number of people try to explain point 1 to him.

5 He calls people Adolf, Eva, Nazi etc, threatens to sue and instigates a pile on and is gleeful to learn the person he is targeting is GC.

Thereby giving a textbook example of point 1 and proving why point 2 is necessary?

teawamutu · 19/02/2021 10:58

Jesus. Is he quite well?

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 19/02/2021 10:57

What a very unpleasant man. This was his original tweet:
mobile.twitter.com/omid9/status/1361620826089549826
which linked to:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55995979

The last couple of paragraphs in that article are about Selina Todd's comments and women being afraid to speak out (snippet below).

He then doubled down by calling women Adolf and Eva Braun, and then denying that he was calling women Nazis. Hmm.
I honestly don't see how he has a leg to stand on legally. While I don't want to see DrEm get sued, I'd love to see him try to make his case in court. A judge would be a lot less sympathetic than his twitter followers.

I'm also bemused by the fact that he's gone on about her 'sending her 14k twitter followers after him' when he's got 292k and is still tweeting about her, even though she blocked him and made her account private a couple of days ago.

'Prof Selina Todd, an Oxford University academic who previously had an invitation to a conference celebrating women withdrawn over her stance on transgender rights issues, welcomed government action although she said the free speech champion could be a "blunt instrument".
She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that universities have "dismally failed" to uphold freedom of debate in recent years.
"Things have got a lot worse for academics and for students - many of whom get in touch with me anonymously to say how frightened they are to speak out," she said.

nauticant · 19/02/2021 10:32

At what point does this become targeted harassment?

I'd go for the moment he agreed that he was acting like a stalker:

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210218222640/twitter.com/omid9/status/1362511435578957827" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210218222640/twitter.com/omid9/status/1362511435578957827

Omid Djalili
Are Dr Em tweets still there?

Wicked witch of the North
Bit stalkery innit?

Omid Djalili
💯 and I’m not letting go

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