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Omid Djalili on women's rights issues - not funny at all

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derxa · 16/02/2021 19:01

mobile.twitter.com/omid9/status/1361739351911235591

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merrymouse · 17/02/2021 11:56

Maybe the nazi comment is an example of the unhelpful merging of US and UK political discourse on twitter and other social media.

In the US some of the people complaining about cancel culture really do literally align themselves with Nazis. That does not mean that everyone who complains about cancel culture is a nazi. But maybe if you are feeling a bit lazy and want to get International likes it's easy to reach for 'nazi'?

Thelnebriati · 17/02/2021 11:55

Does he know what's proposed for Scotland? That comment could be construed as hate speech.

I guess that 'free speech' doesn't seem very important compared to fish rotting on the docks but they are both symptoms of the same disease. Its an odd position for a comedian. I guess he doesn't think there's any threat to his livelihood from the creeping loss of free speech.

InTheShadowOfTheMushroomCloud · 17/02/2021 11:53

You know what I had for tea last night?

Baked potato

I think they are the second lovely way of eating potatoes after Boulangere potatoes...

CaraDuneRedux · 17/02/2021 11:52

Yep. It completely minimises the evil that the nazis did. It's actually pretty offensive, imo

Yes, it's the antisemitism of likening a mainstream political disagreement to the premeditated murder and genocide of millions of people.

Plus the Manichean good versus evil oversimplification means you lose all nuance from politics (and also lose all grip on reality or any understanding of why your core voters are turning away from you).

PotholeParadies · 17/02/2021 11:51

I don't think Omid has learnt anything yet.

He's still targeting the woman he called Adolf last night by calling her Eva Braun.

This was 18 minutes ago.

Nazi is exactly what I meant in the tweet. You called me “despicable” and I jokingly called you “Adolf”. 1-1. Move on Eva (Braun). There I didn’t misgender you this time.

twitter.com/omid9/status/1362001919087169536?s=19

NewParent11 · 17/02/2021 11:51

@growinggreyer

Ah, a new dad. How lovely. Maybe you could turn your attention to your offspring. I'm sure they would appreciate a few minutes of your time.
Just put them down for a nap actually. Stay at home dad so plenty of time to care for baby, keep on top of the housework and cooking with enough left over to scroll through mums net
SheGonBringThatAttitudeHome2 · 17/02/2021 11:49

Another day..

NewParent11 · 17/02/2021 11:46

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growinggreyer · 17/02/2021 11:45

Ah, a new dad. How lovely. Maybe you could turn your attention to your offspring. I'm sure they would appreciate a few minutes of your time.

SunsetBeetch · 17/02/2021 11:43

@CaraDuneRedux

I'm very disappointed by Djalil. This notion that everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi is, as @Tarunperin said, despicable.

That's it in a nutshell, I think.

Yep. It completely minimises the evil that the nazis did. It's actually pretty offensive, imo. But perfectly acceptable in some circles. For reasons.
CaraDuneRedux · 17/02/2021 11:35

I'm very disappointed by Djalil. This notion that everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi is, as @Tarunperin said, despicable.

That's it in a nutshell, I think.

SunsetBeetch · 17/02/2021 11:34

Just because a lot of mums feel that way doesn't mean dads do

Oh I get it! A man has arrived, etc, etc

MissBarbary · 17/02/2021 11:32

I don't read the original tweet as calling Selina Todd a Nazi or a specific attack on feminism.

I read "Nazi" as intended to mean anyone who isn't a wokey lefty. I'm not aware of any genuine Nazis or Fascists being no- platformed so I see it as meant to cover the likes of Amber Rudd , Jordan Peterson and Julia Hartley- Brewer all of whom are no more Nazis than Todd but have been no-platformed and all of whom I suspect Djalil will think deserve it.

The person who has a legitimate complaint about being labelled in that way is the person with the Twitter handle @Tarunperin who was called "Adolf"

I'm very disappointed by Djalil. This notion that everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi is, as @Tarunperin said, despicable.

CaraDuneRedux · 17/02/2021 11:31

@TheHeathenOfSuburbia

I suspect he skim read the Selina Todd paragraph as [blah blah women stuff] Hence his surprise when it all kicked off

If you assumed the free speech debate was in the same place as a decade ago, you'd think it was about Nick Griffin and milkshakes and stuff and wonder what all the fuss was about

And of course the supreme irony was that it was free speech that did for Nick Griffin. Lots of people on the left were outraged at Question Time giving him a platform - but in fact once he's exposed himself as a fucking Muppet live on TV in front of an audience of millions his political career tanked.
SunsetBeetch · 17/02/2021 11:30

Everyone did so well to keep a civil tongue until you showed up. Bet your kids are learning great manners and conflict resolution from you. Keep up the good work

Odfod. Swearing is permitted on here. You're not a moderator and you won't tone police me or anyone else on here.

NewParent11 · 17/02/2021 11:15

@CaraDuneRedux

I recommend handling sealions a bit like tantrumming toddlers. Just talk round them, and eventually they run out of steam.

Incidentally, Horizons, I have friends who are climate scientists and some of them do get death threats (one in particular received what the police called 'creditable death threats Shock). The trolls tend to be particularly abusive if you're female - then you get death and rape threats (in between being told you're too ugly to rape and therefore shouldn't be on telly...)

Thank you Halo

As I said earlier
Rise above and beat the stereotype, don't become one

NewParent11 · 17/02/2021 11:13

@growinggreyer

Oh *@NewParent11*, thank goodness you are here to keep these silly mummies in line.

Do you fondly imagine that because you have reproduced that makes you the boss of the world?

Just because a lot of mums feel that way doesn't mean dads do
CaraDuneRedux · 17/02/2021 11:12

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merrymouse · 17/02/2021 11:08

Just feel it's necessary to point out for no particular reason that my user name is not accurate and I am not actually a mouse so...

Thelnebriati · 17/02/2021 11:08

''If you don't talk the right way the important people wont listen'' isn't the gotcha people seem to think it is.

PotholeParadies · 17/02/2021 11:07

Omid Djalili has three children. Have you tweeted the same admonition to him?

CaraDuneRedux · 17/02/2021 11:07

@Tanith

It's the BBC article that has a link to another report entitled "Nazi salutes, laddish societies and safe spaces"

I wonder if that's why Omid picked up the Nazi label, especially if he was skim-reading: I wonder if the linked report was deliberately placed.

That's a possible explanation. Doesn't explain the doubling down when it's pointed out to him that he's making a tit of himself.
growinggreyer · 17/02/2021 11:07

Oh @NewParent11, thank goodness you are here to keep these silly mummies in line.

Do you fondly imagine that because you have reproduced that makes you the boss of the world?

NewParent11 · 17/02/2021 11:04

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CaraDuneRedux · 17/02/2021 10:59

That is indeed a good response, Sunset.

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