Omid Djalili on women's rights issues - not funny at all

Underneath the twitter spat, he posted that sweet video of a guy skating, then falling in Amsterdam.

Free spirit. Comedy. Resilience. Strength. Teamwork. Triumph. Ladies and gentlemen, humanity

How ironic. How very unlike how he has behaved in the last 24 hours.

That's really interesting that the article changed.

The one on Omid's link has 3 paras (not one line) on Selina Todd - they wouldn't automatically have gone on there, would they?

Omid wrote "Blocking me will not help her" - eurgh. how ...crude.

Selina Todd was not in the original article but was added later so the relevant paragraph was present in a version at Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:27:29 GMT.

His tweet was 2 hours after revision.

I did enjoy the use of the passive voice in one of his tweets “thus we have a defamation case”, as if it had independently manifested itself like an act of god, and wasn’t because he saw his arse on Twitter

His comic skills coming through there.

IIRC the BBC news article didn't have the Selina Todd bit in when I first read it yesterday morning - that was added later. I may be misremembering though.

You might have been remembering correctly depending on when you accessed the article @Aha85. This was the version very early morning on Tuesday (Tue, 16 Feb 2021 01:34:38 GMT):

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210216012635if_/www.bbc.com/news/education-55995979" rel="nofollow" target="blank">web.archive.org/web/20210216012635if/www.bbc.com/news/education-55995979

Selina Todd was not in the original article but was added later so the relevant paragraph was present in a version at Tue, 16 Feb 2021 08:27:29 GMT.

It looks like the article was amended in response to the contributions made by Todd and Tatchell in the Today programme on Radio 4 on Tuesday just after 7am.

Regardless of how it started, the way it's ended is very notgood.

Oh wow, what a knob.

Do you think he'll wake up with a bad head and 'the fear'?

Calling David Baddiel in of all people when he's been chucking about Nazi and Adolf and Eva Braun for the past two days is just the cherry on the cake.

I can never be bothered with a Twitter spat, as I can never usually be arsed to untangle who said what to whom, so can someone please help me understand what the lawyer will actually be doing? Djalili thinks he’s been defamed because Dr EM said he calls women Nazis?

I did enjoy the use of the passive voice in one of his tweets “thus we have a defamation case”, as if it had independently manifested itself like an act of god, and wasn’t because he saw his arse on Twitter

Mate, we’re all on a hair trigger in lockdown, have a coffee, calm yourself down and take the lawyer off speed dial.

Well that escalated quickly. I hope he does take it to court, I’m definitely up for that crowdfunder.
To think I’ve actually paid for tickets to go & see him in the past.

just a bloke who doesn't like to admit he made a mistake..

There are a lot of them about, I've noticed over the years.

(Has anyone pulled a NAMALT yet?)

I am no lawyer but I imagine that if he had contacted one, the first piece of advice would be to get off twitter not to start bragging about his lawyer.

He’s a monstrous bully.

Amazing how quickly he got to ‘I’m lawyering up’

He needs to get off twitter

people lose all sense of perspective during these spats

Whatever he thought the reaction is interesting

Things go wonky
Call a lawyer
Try and round up popular well known friends to support you

Because you're being picked on by mean women

Lawyer
Famous friends
(Male)

So I'm sure he doesn't think he does, but he has privilege that he is trying to leverage when things don't go his way.

That fact should make him pause. I'm not on Twitter so can't point it out myself (and what would be the point).

I am too old to understand twitter spats

so where are we now?

everything he says is a bit of a laugh but he will sue for defamation?

who is he suing?

#flummoxed

I don't think Omid takes free speech seriously as a principal at all. I first noticed him on twitter over a free speech issue. It was the case of a YouTuber who made a distasteful joke (the 'nazi pug' case - potentially clever & funny but taken too far into offensiveness). He was later convicted. Some comedians including David Baddiel were publicly supportive of his right (or the right in general) to make offensive jokes, but omid was publicly not supportive, and was presumably happy with the conviction. Which I thought was a dangerous position for a comedian to take, given that offensiveness is so subjective.

Tho he was ironically on the same side as glinner that time, I seem to remember him joining in the anti-glinner on twitter. But I really think he entered into this completely clueless. I don't believe he thought he was referring to feminists being deplatformed in his first tweet. It's not the only free speech issue in universities. But having discovered that it is partly about that, and he'd walked into something he hadn't understood, he should have paused.

I'm a woman and used to be a girl and when I've tried to deal with abuse IN REAL LIFE from random men. No approach works.

Not light hearted. Not arguing. Not being shocked. Not looking scared. Not ignoring...

In fact if a man is a bit drunk then trying to brush off unwelcome advances in a ' light hearted way' more than often leads to an aggressive response.

Yes please tell us more, wisdom man :/

How do you feel about being a purveyor of online hate!

Has anyone threatened to rape him with a baseball bat with barbed wire round it? Kill him? Kill his children (if he has any)? Burn his house down?

I'm imagining not. And certainly not by women who know the difference between male and female :/

If anyone on here has ever been confused by the idea of masculine fragility that is it right there!

Women's words = actual violence.
Women saying no is incomprehensible.
Etc

Pothole I had a quick squiz and said just said I don't get it either.

The people who said hold on about it were right

He's tagged David Baddiel in. This is just embarrassing.

That's hysterical. Look, look I know a Jewish person so can't have been anti-Semitic.

David Baddiel is fairly GC, anti-censorship and funny, three reasons I can't see him being sympathetic to OD.

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Recent? 2007?

Is this like when I claim the 90s were only ten years ago and the Spice Girls are still what all the kids are listening to?

Quite possibly, but Omid is older than me so could apply to him too

Oh come off it- I'm older than both of you- the many people who have been no platformed in the last 2-3 years have not been Nazis.

Having looked through the tweets, I think now that he just didn't have a clue, shouted about Nazis without even looking, and then was completely taken aback when people started talking about feminists.

I think the reference to "online hate" in the tweet above at Sarah was about "hate" addressed at him, not at trans people - he meant the feminists who were telling him he was talking shite.

He was obviously upset by it, but instead of saying "oh, I realise there is something here I didn't understand, sorry for saying something so dumb" he instead started lashing out and saying that he was being bullied.

It's possible he's drunk. I don't think that he's a TRA spitting bile, just a bloke who doesn't like to admit he made a mistake, which I do find easier to forgive. But he is making a tit of himself.

awful behaviour, and yep, i saw david baddiel had replied to someone else on the thread. i bet they are chatting privately.
really baddiel should tell him to calm down, this escalated horribly. and omid should listen. (he might listen to a man!)!

"Look! Here he is!"

"Dave, tell them I'm not!"
David: "Mate. I'm trying to have dinner."