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Pronouns

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JellySlice · 16/02/2021 14:17

I recognise that we neither have a MN hive mind, nor a uniform position on pronouns. For those for whom pronouns matter, have you noticed that MNers are more likely to use feminine pronouns for more feminine-appearing TW? Similarly masculine pronouns for more masculine-appearing TM. And this does not relate to how accepting or rejecting of biological reality they are.

Eg Blair White and Laverne Cox - ‘she’. Buck Angel and Stephen Whittle - ‘he’.

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notyourhandmaid · 16/02/2021 15:16

I haven't noticed this as a pattern but I did wonder recently if people found it easier to use preferred pronouns when it's people who are very clear they're not literally the sex they present as - i.e. people will 'be kind' when it's an actual option rather than something forced.

JellySlice · 16/02/2021 15:12

Perhaps so.

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OneEpisode · 16/02/2021 15:07

I don’t know Blaire White. I have only seen a curated persona on screen. That persona presents feminine so “she” talking about the persona is what comes automatically.
Do younger mn users think of the image on screen more than the real person?

GCITC · 16/02/2021 14:43

This backs up the claim that pronouns are sexed rather than gendered. Those who have taken steps to change their body to resemble that of the opposite sex, and have done so successfully, are more likely to be called the pronouns of the sex they resemble.

Branleuse · 16/02/2021 14:36

if i see someone is trans, then ill use they pronouns usually as a unisex option. I dont want to get banned from anywhere for misgendering, yet am uncomfortable using pronouns for a sex I know they actually arent

OhHolyJesus · 16/02/2021 14:25

I can't force language on anyone, I certainly can't do that and ask someone it to force theirs on me but I do find it odd when anyone uses a female pronoun for someone they know is male, regardless of how feminine a person might appear.

If someone uses a female pronoun for a man it makes me sad and I respect them a bit less. Even if it's seen as a small act of polite pretending it is always a huge black fat lie, not a tiny white one, that betrays women, even if they think it doesn't, I think it does.

Blaire White I would call White or Blaire.
Stephen Wood/Karen White I would call White or Stephen Wood. I don't do pronouns but I will use chosen names to be polite, show respect and if I like them. Wood deserves none of the above and I'm a bit in the fence with Blaire White.

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