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For all those who are happy with TW in single-sex spaces if they have “had the op”

63 replies

MoleSmokes · 16/02/2021 11:02

So you would not be happy with Blaire White in your public toilets/changing rooms/refuges etc. but you would be OK with Jessica? Hmm

Apparently, JY is not only being “lewd and inappropriate” to the female firefighters sent to lift JY out of the bath twice a day but has been harassing women on Twitter, by tagging them in posts with selfies of the suppurating neo-vag and asking them for advice 🤮

”JY is back and worse than ever”

This is the dilemma that will arise if you go down the ”but true trans are OK” route of gate-keeping women’s spaces.

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Zinco · 16/02/2021 14:16

You can do an image search to check something like that whether it's original; but speaking personally I wouldn't go anywhere near it. Not looking.

youkiddingme · 16/02/2021 13:55

Several people in the video comments suggesting the photos are 'borrowed'. No idea if there's anything in that

Gcnq · 16/02/2021 13:41

JY actually had the op..?

AdHominemNonSequitur · 16/02/2021 12:54

I feel like she must some how be secretly gender critical. Could any one individual be said to be doing more to win over hearts and minds for the arguement for sex protected spaces than JY.

Though on a personal level, my boundaries do not include toilets (I would hapily share my facilities with Trans Women in the women's, or men in unisex toilets for that matter), it is not my place to tell other women where their boundaries should be. I think the Trans Women being unsafe in the men's loo arguement is bogus, because Trans Men use the men's loo by choice all the time, as far as I can tell the crime stats do not back up toilet attacks in the UK (that may be different elsewhere) and if you can self ID into any loo, then by default the men who would harm trans women in the men's will follow them into the women's. The arguement put forward that men will come into the loos anyway to attack if they want to, negates the arguement that trans women would be safer there. But all of it is nonsense. It's a social contract, backed up by the legislation in the event it is abused. Anyone can walk into any tolilet at any time but remove the legal protection and the social contract is gone. Truth is trans women do use women's toilets. Now, in the past and all the time, they shouldn't officially, but they do and it is tolerated, until it isn't. The whole TWAW mantra forces most people to be much less accepting of something that was already being tolerated, because when you shine a light on it, you just see so clearly all the nonsense.

Defaultname · 16/02/2021 12:52

@Xanthangum

suppurating neo-vag

There just isn't enough zoflora in the universe to scrub this out of my life...

I was reading it as 'meat-and-two-vag'...
KleineDracheKokosnuss · 16/02/2021 12:47

If JY is indeed a sufferer of dysphoria, then JY is presumably ‚true trans‘ (if we’re going with dysphoria is the Definition of ‚True Trans‘). (Caveat: terms borrowed from above. I have no idea what is currently considered ‚correct‘ wording).

At which point we presumably say: ok, JY must be treated as a woman and can use the ladies, assuming we retain only male and female toilets (I favour third spaces in order to accommodate maximum rights).

What would we do with a woman who tweeted offensive pics, harassed others, or behaved in a threatening, racist or other ‚ist‘ manner?

We would use public order rules and legislation to constrain JYs behaviour. People would sue JY for harassment and obtain injunctions. Action may even include barring JY from public bathrooms. If JY continued, there may be mental health intervention needed. We have the tools to remove such woman’s and transwomen from spaces. The hard part would be getting the public authorities to use them.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 16/02/2021 12:45

I used to think so back when I thought TW were rare, generally gay and transsexual.
Now, definitely not. There are a lot of JYs out there.

KleineDracheKokosnuss · 16/02/2021 12:36

I sincerely hope JY gets the help JY needs.

Then JY turns round and sues all those who went along with/affirmed.

Shedbuilder · 16/02/2021 12:23

It's all good. It's all making ordinary people sit up and take notice. I just feel terribly sorry for all those who are being abused by JY.

WhoWh0 · 16/02/2021 11:57

Male and female firefighters.
30 call outs in less than 2 weeks.
Close up photos of genital area surgery site on Twitter tagging in a random doctor (never actually met), the local fire-fighting department and the local government (which issued the “lewd and inappropriate” accusation).
Tweeted photos of having a period”, again tagging in fire and local government departments.
Tweeted video of being stuck in bathtub, necessitating another emergency call out.

Still permitted on Twitter, when GC women are banned for s/he.

Truly doubting the sanity of the world right now....

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 16/02/2021 11:50

Not looking not looking... Ive seen on twitter that there are some nasty pics on there...

Melroses · 16/02/2021 11:49

Yes I shouldn't have looked. It was terrible.
Plastic surgery does not a woman make.

Xanthangum · 16/02/2021 11:47

suppurating neo-vag

There just isn't enough zoflora in the universe to scrub this out of my life...