Trans campaigners want to abolish prisons - wonder why?

There's a phrase we use in the criminal justice system 'cannot be safely managed in the community', wtf are we meant to do without prisons, I see they don't give a shit about how harshly the CJ system has treated women for years and weren't campaigning for abolition of custodial sentences before.
Ridiculous.

Compare and contrast with the attitude the trans activists community encourages towards hate crime reporting.

I’d noticed on Twitter recently that this is the latest tack they’re taking. Anarchists are beginning to jump in on the trans debate.

I rather assumed this was in response to the rather compelling case made by women that putting rapists, murderers and other violent men in the women’s estate is an utterly inhumane and illogical thing to do.

It’s very slow and our political and state institutions are so embroiled that it’s very hard work, but I think it’s a sign that we are beginning to demonstrate that our position is the central ground. However much extremist transactivists (not all trans etc) try to paint themselves as occupying the right side of history, their extremism is becoming more obvious as more rational groups begin to push back and they find themselves allied with groups that represent positions that are unlikely ever to be mainstream in western democratised society.

The prison reform trust is a good resource for anyone interested in actual prison reform.

There is a focus on the male estate versus the female estate in terms of. Why they are there, background, danger to the public etc etc.

Ah. Sodding carceral feminists.

Women are just such a total pita aren't they :(

Trans is the new get out of jail free card.

There are better arguments for abolishing prisons than their impact on transgender individuals.

The weaponising of a possible transgender identity by certain violent male prisoners in order to access female spaces makes connecting campaigning for prison abolition with campaigning for 'trans rights' unseemly at best.

Prisons are dreadful and I think they are actively harmful places that should be abolished. If there was any credible other alternative. But there isn't.

That's the pity and the truth.

Prisons are dreadful and I think they are actively harmful places that should be abolished. If there was any credible other alternative. But there isn't.

If I was in charge of the world there would be houses for offenders, very normal, staffed with experienced, knowledgeable staff who would manage a completely healthy and growth-oriented home which the men (and very few women) would live in. Work, college and all sorts of lovely activities based on trying to stop recidivism would happen. Counselling, AA, crafts and yoga... and so on. In the case of sex offenders these homes would be in communities far from everyone else and they'd be for life. It would be eye-wateringly expensive.

This DOESN'T EXIST and so offenders have to go somewhere. Prison is where.

What actions might lead to criminalisation

I thought it never happened anyway? I mean the ones in prison are ones that are usually allowed to be assumed not to be fir real anyway? ( again according to some activists )

directly confronts criminalisation of trans communities

What actions might lead to criminalisation?

I have seen this rhetoric by different activists not just trans activists. There seems to be a movement gathering groups together.

I have yet to see alternatives in how people are punished, or deterred from committing crime. It seems to be completely idealistic and I am not surprised to see who is pushing the agenda.

Isnt calling the police if something happens what sone activists suggest we do as opposed to keep sex segregation?

Prison is surely punishment and rehabilitation I mean its not there to deliberately cause problems for trans people. Its really not a personal attack

A report by a group of “trans equality focused organisations working together” is calling for prisons to be abolished, and demonizing women who support “increased reporting and prosecution of violence.”

Just fucking wow. Who do us absolute bitches think we are eh, expecting justice.

There you have the difference between men and women - women know that at times we rely on the State (police & judiciary) to keep women and children safe from predators . Male dominated groups fail to understand that.