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Lionel Shriver article

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Motorcyclemptiness · 13/02/2021 20:04

very well put, IMO

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/breastfeeding-is-now-chestfeeding-why-are-the-language-police-trying-to-wipe-out-women-wfqmws0j0

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Whatsnewpussyhat · 14/02/2021 02:26

I like the bit where it says as of 2017 only 2 transmen have given birth.

Ridiculous forced language from those who deny their biology but are happy to use it when they need to.

aweegc · 14/02/2021 02:21

Thanks for the share token. Great article.

MrsRockAndRoll · 14/02/2021 02:11

Great article

unwashedanddazed · 14/02/2021 01:56

I bloody love Lionel Shriver. Can't wait for her novel on the subject! (I live in hope.)

NotFabulousDarling · 14/02/2021 00:21

This article is spot on. I'm very glad they've written this from such a well-balanced viewpoint.

notyourhandmaid · 13/02/2021 23:27

"This variety of news story does the trans cause no favours. Surely for rational people, the principal trans cause is to be treated like everyone else and be left in peace. Hear, hear. I’m all for that. But bend-over- backwards social obeisance that rides roughshod over half the human race backfires big time. It stirs hostility in compatriots who might otherwise regard transgender people with genial, live-and-let-live acceptance."

Nailed it.

WeeTorag · 13/02/2021 22:55

Thanks for sharing this OP.

Why am I not surprise Freddy M had a hand in this policy? I remember watching the documentary about Freddy and Freddy frantically scoring out the words Female, women, mother etc on the maternity forms as if it was a personal affront to Freddy. And now Freddy has a whole hospital trust policy tailored to Freddy. Lucky Freddy.

CranberriesChoccyAgain · 13/02/2021 20:43

It's such a bizarre thing to do, especially since it wasn't necessary to do it to be trans-inclusive as men also have breasts. But it's frankly quite frightening that a hospital/medical advisory group would adopt such woefully inaccurate terminology.

persistentwoman · 13/02/2021 20:41

I suppose EndoplasmicReticulum that breastfeeding our babies is a uniting experience - even when there are problems, women empathise. There's such an irony that this regressive anti women movement is being led by the very people who can never breastfeed or understand that bond.
Makes you think about what motivates them doesn't it?

EndoplasmicReticulum · 13/02/2021 20:31

This issue has really got a wider audience. My mum read about it in the Telegraph, and was reading me a selection of the letters they had in response. It has not gone down well with readers of the Telegraph. Or my mum, who is a woman who breastfed two children.

Maladicta · 13/02/2021 20:26

Just read it, agree completely with her sentiments.

persistentwoman · 13/02/2021 20:25

Thank you Lionel Shriver and thank you the Times for week after week covering the systematised abuse that is happening to women.

weebarra · 13/02/2021 20:23

Thank you for sharing @Motorcyclemptiness. I wondered when Lionel would stick her head above the parapet. That's a fantastic article and sums it all up.

midgedude · 13/02/2021 20:16

It works fine thanks

Lifeaintalwaysempty · 13/02/2021 20:15

Bravo Lionel Shriver and thank you. If the chestfeeding debacle has had the effect of bringing the wider issue of women, and sex, in language, into the light then there is at least that.

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Motorcyclemptiness · 13/02/2021 20:14

midgedude - i have never done this before so not sure it will work?

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d1157740-6d57-11eb-ba86-e516f9df6e0a?shareToken=7a3329b2d3ca12ae8221f268b0948162

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midgedude · 13/02/2021 20:11

Share token anyone? I know I should subscribe sometime but