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Solidarity in Aldi today!

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JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:08

This is my first thread in a very long time but I wanted to share the uplifting and fabulous experience I had today in Aldi😂

I reached 'peak' during the last lockdown and lurk regularly on here while trying to make sense of the madness.
DH is supportive to a degree but very nervous of me being vocal about my GC views as we are both teachers. I am a middle leader in a secondary school and he worries about me getting sackedConfused
So I can't discuss this much IRL.

Anyway, queing outside Aldi today and saw a woman a few people ahead of me with a 'Woman
Noun
adult human female' tote bag. I was thrilled and as soon as there was an opportunity (by the fruit and vegWink) I told her I liked her bag and that I knew what it meant.
She said I had made her day; I replied I she had made mine. Then she said 'Solidarity sister and see you on the next march'
We went on our separate ways but bloody hell it was brilliant. To vocalise it and be recognised. Felt a bit emotional and even now re-writing it, am a bit teary.

Just wanted to share. It was wonderful.

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HipTightOnions · 13/02/2021 18:56

I have never discussed it at work and likely never will. I would like to look in depth at the PSHE curriculum but I would be unable to keep my mouth shut

I wish you would/could. The more of us who speak up the better - they can’t sack us all!

Riapia · 13/02/2021 18:55

@NaturalBlondeYeahRight

I wish I saw one in public- I’d feel the same as you! I don’t know anyone really GC like me but most of the women at work (school) are naturally quite gender critical, even if they haven’t connected the dots. I daren’t wear one because of my teens, ridiculous I know but we can’t discuss it anymore.
Daren’t wear one because of your teens. This is exactly why you should wear one.
Boudicabooandbulldogs · 13/02/2021 18:55

Weary with teens
It’s actually quite sad that there appears to be quite a few teachers who feel like they have to be some sort of underground movement, like you say when it’s just about facts and biology.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 13/02/2021 18:55

@SingingLoud

I have the t/shirt, white with gold foil writing. I wore it out to a local cafe last year, we were queuing outside, at the door we were the next ones to go in, and a woman leaving the cafe with two teenagers pointed at my chest and said “yes” really loudly and gave me the thumbs up as she walked past. We were both wearing masks but both grinning like maniacs, I could tell by her eyes. Grin
This is excellent! I'd be flippin buzzing!
HeronLanyon · 13/02/2021 18:54

I’ve just ‘come out’ at work having been asked to have a ‘preferred pronoun’ start to a meeting I’m running shortly. Part of wider policies including emails etc. All kicking off. I will not be doing so but if someone else wishes to then won’t be joining in. Previous threads here invaluable for approaches but tbh if this is the hill my career dies on, so be it.
Lovely aldi moment op.

JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:54

@Boudicabooandbulldogs

Not been on here in a while, glad I decided to have a look today, am now going to buy one of those bags or the t-shirts. I’m another teacher, wonder how many of us that are conditioned into not being able to speak about this at work. Perhaps we could all buy the bags/t-shirts.
I don't actually think anyone at my school would notice/ be aware of I had the bag. Might try it.
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tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 13/02/2021 18:53

Oh wow! I would have been thrilled too OP GrinI'm so chuffed for you!

I would love a bag like that but I'm ashamed to say I'd be nervous of any backlash too especially if I bumped into someone from work (I work in a school).

I would bloody love to march right now though ...

Wearywithteens · 13/02/2021 18:52

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MsTSwift · 13/02/2021 18:52

Also put me in mind of handmaids tale recognising a felllow rebel in the grocery shop 😁❤️.

tillyandmilly · 13/02/2021 18:51

Don’t get it? What does it mean?

MoodyMarshall · 13/02/2021 18:50

Hi @Wearywithteens most of the teachers I know have seen with their own eyes autistic teenage girls going down the 'Identify as male' path. Ask any secondary teacher if they've dealt with this and they'll tell you of numerous cases. Ditto social workers and psychologists.

Most of us can spot patterns but it's true that we're limited in terms of being openly critical of the ideology.

FemaleAndLearning · 13/02/2021 18:50

Fantastic! I would be elated too. Sadly my t shirt doesn't fit me at the moment but still have my tote bag. Was wearing an adult human female lanyard at work but was gently warned not to wear it as it is perceived as transphobic.

JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:49

@ValancyRedfern

GC stands for gender critical - we are critical of gender as we don't believe in gender stereotypes or any 'inner essence' which determines gender. Adult human female is simply the dictionary definition of female, but has become controversial as as a lot of people wish to redefine what a woman is.

I am also a GC secondary teacher!

👋🏻
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ValancyRedfern · 13/02/2021 18:47

I did discuss it a few years ago with the Head and shared some transgender trend resources with her. She did later try to get rid of me but for entirely different reasons. I have to assume she was GC too or she would have used that as her excuse to get rid of me!

JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:47

@NaturalBlondeYeahRight

I wish I saw one in public- I’d feel the same as you! I don’t know anyone really GC like me but most of the women at work (school) are naturally quite gender critical, even if they haven’t connected the dots. I daren’t wear one because of my teens, ridiculous I know but we can’t discuss it anymore.
It must be so difficult for you all with TWAW teens. My DC are only 12, 10 and 4 so trying to sow the seeds early. DD10 was going on about a gender of someone's baby- 'I think you mean sex of the baby DD' Not much but hoping it sticks.
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PCar20 · 13/02/2021 18:46

What does GC mean? Sorry if I’m being ignorant

Boudicabooandbulldogs · 13/02/2021 18:43

Not been on here in a while, glad I decided to have a look today, am now going to buy one of those bags or the t-shirts.
I’m another teacher, wonder how many of us that are conditioned into not being able to speak about this at work. Perhaps we could all buy the bags/t-shirts.

InFiveMins · 13/02/2021 18:42

Love it!

ValancyRedfern · 13/02/2021 18:42

I have a woman adult human female t shirt but haven't dared wear it out as I live near a very twaw University. I am however 'out' on Facebook and in school. I often get disagreement in public and agreement in private.

Awning10 · 13/02/2021 18:42

Secondary TA here!

JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:42

@Wearywithteens

What warms my cockles more is that you’re both teachers - and secondary! I thought all teachers were firmly signed up to the twaw dogma. Brilliant share - thanks OP.
I have never discussed it at work and likely never will. I would like to look in depth at the PSHE curriculum but I would be unable to keep my mouth shut. DH would have kittens.
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ValancyRedfern · 13/02/2021 18:41

GC stands for gender critical - we are critical of gender as we don't believe in gender stereotypes or any 'inner essence' which determines gender. Adult human female is simply the dictionary definition of female, but has become controversial as as a lot of people wish to redefine what a woman is.

I am also a GC secondary teacher!

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 13/02/2021 18:40

I wish I saw one in public- I’d feel the same as you! I don’t know anyone really GC like me but most of the women at work (school) are naturally quite gender critical, even if they haven’t connected the dots. I daren’t wear one because of my teens, ridiculous I know but we can’t discuss it anymore.

JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:39

@MoodyMarshall

Hi OP, I'm also a middle leader in a secondary school and GC, giving you a 👋 and a 👊

As a teacher, I'd really recommend you read Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier. I've taught children who have gone on to have surgery to 'change sex' as adults, I've always wondered if there was anything I could have done to set them on a less drastic path.

Yay! Right back at you 👊🏻.

I have just finished 'Delusions of Gender' so ready for my next one. Thank you 😀

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JaneyHenderson · 13/02/2021 18:38

@EyesOpening

“I was thrilled and as soon as there was an opportunity (by the fruit and vegwink) I told her I liked her bag and that I knew what it meant.” I’m picturing June (OfFred) whispering to another resistance Handmaid in the grocery store
😂😂😂

Margaret Atwood is/was my favourite author. She's not exactly on the GC path though. Makes me sad. I adore her work especially her poetry.

(Outs self as to what subject I teach🙈)

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