Edinburgh Facebook Group

I was heartened by the responses too, and even that where there was dissent, it was agreed that people could disagree on this subject, without screaming abuse at each other.

I saw the FB thread @EdinburghFeminist. I was heartened at the later replies which will hopefully encourage people to look into what is going on. This is my first post here, am a laspsed MNer, returned for the feminism! Been lurking since the summer, and feel pretty down about it all, but it helps to know there are more of us out there than you think

Either she was uncomfortable with the enormous elephant in the room, or she was getting DMs that were difficult, or she got enough information to kick start her feminist journey.

Hope she finds her way on here.

EdinburghFeminist
talkingdeadscot
'I've joined forwomen.scot'
Good to know! Many like minded women and
always plenty to do to stem the tide of misogny

I hope it stays up so people who aren't on here / Twitter can begin to understand some of vitriol GC women are experiencing!

I'm fairly sure it is a false flag, but it is genius. There is nothing there that TRAs haven't said.

I wrote to all my MSPs/MP last night and have set up a zoom call to talk about sex and the census with Jeremy Balfour a tory MSP in Lothian consituency - his secy is up for other women in the constituency to join in - message me if you want to get in on the action Mar 23, 2021 10:00 AM

womansplaceuk.org/2021/02/10/sex-and-the-census-call-to-action/

Is there a template somewhere that I can use to speak to my MSP and MP about this? Sorry to ask, I am worried that I'll miss stuff out or word it in a way that gets it binned.

I see the census won't be keeping stats to record my sex. Which seems a little mad - if we need improve gynaecological and obstetric services we will need to have at least a ball park figure of how many women live here.

It makes no sense at all.

If my child wrote that there would be bloody hell to pay. Wouldn’t this fall under the new hate laws?

@forwomenscotland - have you seen that tweet?

It could almost be written by a GC person. I mean I know it's what Shon Faye has said, but, it is quite striking to see it all laid out like that. Doen'st give the impression they think it does.

Buffy's do they not realise that we are their mammies?

"I'll think you'll find that I'll decide on that, son"

twitter.com/crit_gen/status/1361298580317868034

Hopefully I've posted this link correctly. I'm on the opposite side of town otherwise I might have been persuaded to pop round and remove this.

The Office of National Statistics and the Femicide Census show different percentages, because the Femicide Census only includes cases where the killer is known (usually convicted), whereas the ONS includes all killings.

I am pretty sure though that there are more men murdered each year than women

Yes, but as you say, it’s men who are doing most of the killing. What’s more shocking is that 62% of female victims are killed by their current or ex partners. In 59% of these cases he was known to have attacked her previously.
www.femicidecensus.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Femicide-Census-10-year-report.pdf#page26

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/articles/homicideinenglandandwales/yearendingmarch2019

I am pretty sure though that there are more men murdered each year than women? The common factor is that men are generally doing the murdering of others, and raping too.
When I mention these facts to my husband, he’s keen to remind me that not all men are like this...

I had a look, Kylie does a good, regular podcast and various events.

I wonder whether she'd be willing to host a webinar or something about the violence aspect of things? Keep it away from the trans stuff, but plant enough seeds for women to think "hang on a minute"?

Agree, Pawsome there are a lot of people that I upset by saying "hang on a minute", a friend of mine has a 7 year old boy wearing hair clips and unicorns and she is convinced he is some sort of trailblazing gender expert.

To me he's just a kid who likes hair clips and unicorns. Why is that special? Hair clips and unicorns are great, why would he NOT like them?

I'm in that group too.

Unfortunately so is everybody I know, including people with non binary teenagers who think their child is breaking down barriers and those who have transitioned small children. They would take it as a personal attack if I commented on it and it would genuinely affect my life and children's lives. I've seen other parents called bigots etc. for less.

I struggle with the fact that general points about policy and dangerous men can be taken as me attacking kids- but that's where we're at.

I think it was better to focus on the women murdered though, as it was very much a feminism 101 chat. The trans stuff only comes into play when you look at the detail. I'm more shocked that women didn't know these figures of 2 (3 in lockdown) women being killed a week. That's where you start with feminism, I think.

Sorry for not adding support. Nice to see others out there.

Also in Edinburgh and GC - good to know there are more of us out there than it seems. As I said upthread, I have felt able to start conversations with friends about this over the last year or so and many have similar concerns.