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ONS reversed decision to record census by sex

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purpleboy · 11/02/2021 15:21

mobile.twitter.com/fairplaywomen/status/1359875526261882887?s=19

The ons has reversed its decision to record the census next month by sex.

Time for a mass campaign? Shall we all ID as men?

Might make them take notice, especially if they hear in advance?

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Mollyollydolly · 11/02/2021 16:13

I'm absolutely up for a mass campaign. They can fine me, take me to court, I don't give a shit. It's an ideal opportunity where we can make ourselves heard .. they'll regret it.

FishWithoutABike · 11/02/2021 16:09

This is madness. I get asked my ethnicity buying a toothbrush but we can’t ask what someone’s sex is on a national census? Aren’t trans people proud of being trans? The trans community is really supportive of each other and have made so many positive steps for an inclusive society why do some radicals want to erase their own existence. I get not everyone wants to say ‘hi my names Steve I have a vagina’ and trans people should absolutely have a right to protect their privacy. But we can’t all pretend they don’t exist.

poorbuthappy · 11/02/2021 16:09

It's illegal to lie or not complete the form.
How this fits in with that particular law isn't quite clear.

JellySlice · 11/02/2021 16:05

If you aren't bothered about recording your faith position on the census, could you write Gender Critical instead?

SophocIestheFox · 11/02/2021 16:04

It’s coming to something when people who do numbers for a living can’t work out that not being consistent over the categories that you’re sorting the numbers into is a mad idea that makes the data utterly useless.

Gah.

BuntingEllacott · 11/02/2021 16:02

@Kit19

That's the basic problem Datun and I dont understand why TRA think this is a good thing

Don't they want to know how many TW and TM there are? do they not think that planning for services and support will work better with proper data to support it? Resources for health and other support will be allocated based on population breakdown - isnt this shooting themselves in the foot?

You've started with the assumption that ideological TRAs are doing this to support trans people getting services they need. Fatal flaw. Once you understand it's about removing any useful data around sex at all, and trans people are simply a wedge being used by a mix of bad faith activists and plenty of well meaning but hard of thinking useful idiots, this sort of pointlessly damaging shenanigans is internally logical.

I'd like to see them justify fining anyone for lying on the census when they've said it's fine and dandy to do so if you're already fibbing on your passport.

ThatIsNotMyUsername · 11/02/2021 16:01

There really needs to be a way of recording your disagreement with this.

VexedofVirginiaWater · 11/02/2021 15:59

Well all their statistics will just be shite then won't they? Why should anyone take any notice of them?

JoodyBlue · 11/02/2021 15:55

Sorry yeah! It was a joke but didn't make it clear. There probably is.

Kit19 · 11/02/2021 15:54

That's the basic problem Datun and I dont understand why TRA think this is a good thing

Don't they want to know how many TW and TM there are? do they not think that planning for services and support will work better with proper data to support it? Resources for health and other support will be allocated based on population breakdown - isnt this shooting themselves in the foot?

7Days · 11/02/2021 15:51

They went back again?
What on earth is the rationale?

OhHolyJesus · 11/02/2021 15:38

Wait what? I thought this had been cleared up about a week ago?

Datun · 11/02/2021 15:30

I think they're Going to ask what's on your passport. But since you can change it and still legally (and biologically) be the opposite sex, it's pointless.

Have I got this wrong? They won't know how many men there are, how many women there are, or how many trans people.

mindtheclegs · 11/02/2021 15:30

@JoodyBlue

Can we spoil our ballot paper?
.. isn't there quite a large fine for doing this?
JoodyBlue · 11/02/2021 15:29

I honestly think it is time for a mass campaign, yes. So sick of this

JoodyBlue · 11/02/2021 15:27

Can we spoil our ballot paper?

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