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Woman's Hour today is interviewing someone from the Tavistock about puberty blockers

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nauticant · 10/02/2021 10:09

It'll be interesting to get a sense of how Emma Barnett thinks the discussion should be handled.

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prisencolinensinainciusol2 · 10/02/2021 11:11

@OldCrone

Twitterers complaining about lack of balance. Weren't the Tavistock asked on to the programme but declined? Like they did when David Bell was on Newsnight.

Exactly!

bourbonne · 10/02/2021 11:10

@Xanthangum

Grin 'radio mumsnet' - you have misspelled 'reasoned, reasonable discourse there...
LMAO. Who the f--- is Nigel and why is he listening to Women's Hour? Amazing that a man would sit there opining on what Women's Hour should be!
OldCrone · 10/02/2021 11:10

Twitterers complaining about lack of balance. Weren't the Tavistock asked on to the programme but declined? Like they did when David Bell was on Newsnight.

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nauticant · 10/02/2021 11:10

For that particular individual Xanthangum, their bio demonstrates some overlap with other current threads in FWR.

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bourbonne · 10/02/2021 11:09

@StanfordPines

I feel this is a very balanced interview.

Why is it Woman’s Hour though? Why is this only a concern for women? Surely it’s a concern for all parents.

Maybe because it's girls and young women who are going down this path in disproportionate numbers? Haven't listened to it, but feel the issue is especially relevant to mums of daughters - the notion of opting out of womanhood.
Xanthangum · 10/02/2021 11:07

Grin 'radio mumsnet' - you have misspelled 'reasoned, reasonable discourse there...

Woman's Hour today is interviewing someone from the Tavistock about puberty blockers
Anonymum263 · 10/02/2021 11:02

Thanks for posting, will have a listen. As the mum of a child who is currently under the care of the Tavi, I am very interested!

prisencolinensinainciusol2 · 10/02/2021 10:57

... he was given a good chance to speak without interruption.

That's a novelty these days! I have to switch off the Today programme most mornings and I've noticed a bit of it from Emma Barnet too. But, yeah she let him speak..

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Violetparis · 10/02/2021 10:53

I thought Dr David Bell was excellent. He was very clear, calm and compassionate. Think it's one of the best interviews I've heard on the subject as he was given a good chance to speak without interruption.

prisencolinensinainciusol2 · 10/02/2021 10:52

At last an actual adult in the room at the BBC!

It's the first time that I've heard someone be allowed to say at the beeb that very many of these children are gay or lesbian.

Hopefully that'll have got through to many listeners and opened their eyes (ears?).

FinnGriff · 10/02/2021 10:49

The tone of voice though. Sounds terrified of saying the wrong thing.

MaMaLa321 · 10/02/2021 10:46

I think it's great. It's not so long ago where Jane Garvie did a WH on this which was heavily biased towards TRAs. Things are moving on.

LizzieSiddal · 10/02/2021 10:46

Thanks for the heads up on this, I will listen later.

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nauticant · 10/02/2021 10:43

pity she read out that VERY LOOOONG statement from Tavistock with no come back. Some of what is in that statement is obviously not what is happening on the ground

If I recall correctly, in the statement the Tavistock sneakily reformulated the High Court's finding that nearly all children and young people on puberty blockers go onto cross-sex hormones into only 50% go from puberty blockers to physical interventions.

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AbsintheFriends · 10/02/2021 10:41

What a long and rambling statement from the Tavistock. An awful lot of words when they could have just said MOVE ALONG. NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

StanfordPines · 10/02/2021 10:40

An excellent and very balanced interview.

And yes, I do appreciate that this is Woman’s Hour because it’s mother’s who will be dealing with this, still winds me up though.

steppemum · 10/02/2021 10:39

pity she read out that VERY LOOOONG statement from Tavistock with no come back. Some of what is in that statement is obviously not what is happening on the ground

LightDrizzle · 10/02/2021 10:38

Really compelling testimony. This will cause a furore.

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nauticant · 10/02/2021 10:38

I like the way he's able to formulate his statements and replies keeping in mind what will be clear to the audience.

Contrast that with the statement provided by the Tavistock (who declined to appear on the programme).

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AbsintheFriends · 10/02/2021 10:36

Outlining the fear of being labelled transphobic when raising serious and legitimate concerns.

This is a really useful interview.

steppemum · 10/02/2021 10:35

and he is talking about the pressure he has had.
Good for him

steppemum · 10/02/2021 10:34

Oh just turned on - he is talking about group A and group B and how we mustn't force children into one or the other.

(group A = people who go on to continue to feel this way as adult = trans
group B = kids who will decide at 18-19 that they are not trans, but are rather gay or gender non conforming etc)

MagpiePi · 10/02/2021 10:34

I like that he is saying that there is less exploration of sexuality, as in whether children could be gay; it is all about 'gender' these days which can only lead to diagnosis of gender dysphoria etc.

AbsintheFriends · 10/02/2021 10:31

Why is it Woman’s Hour though? Why is this only a concern for women? Surely it’s a concern for all parents

I'm just glad they're covering it. It's so bloody long overdue.

(And I'd bet that, rightly or wrongly, it's mothers who bear the emotional and practical brunt of dealing with distressed children. I know when my dd was dealing with complex MH issues it was me not DH who went with her to all her CAMHs appointments and sat for countless hours, day and night, talking and listening to her.)

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