NHS - 8 out of 10 people under 40 will get pregnant within a year...

I wonder if, rather than gender erasure or heteronormativity, they were trying to point out that infertility in a couple could be either a sperm issue or an egg issue rather than both? IDK. It's awkward phrasing because I think they're possibly trying not to say it's the woman who's TTC's fault if she doesn't get pregnant. How could this be better worded?

The good news is there's a whole separate much more detailed linked page on having a baby if you're LGBT+

It mentions the word father but on the other hand 'person who is intending to carry the baby'.

Par for the course.

The place it mentions father is particularly interesting as it's referring to
'For the intended father, surrogacy can be a route to having a child biologically related to them.'

No such mention of biologically related for the people who carry the babies... Given that being the biological father is and has been a priority for men all over the world and is the basis for things like child marriage, virginity testing, fgm and etc etc etc I find that really very telling.

I have sent them some feedback. Fuckwits.

I'm also not sure about the sperm enters the vagina bit.

I mean you do hear of people getting pg when the come hasn't got right up inside, but surely to maximise your chances of pg it's better to get it right up and nearer the cervix?

I think although this advice page is supposed to be informative they're missing it on quite a number of things?!

Because you'd have to say 'women, transmen, afab nb, female mascs, afab agender, afab 3rd spirit and afab sparkly unicorns'

They have a survey. I have vented my spleen.

'DO

have sex every 2 to 3 days without using contraception – make sure sperm enters the vagina

try to have sex around the time you are ovulating – this is usually 12 to 16 days before your period starts

try to maintain a healthy weight, cut down or stop drinking alcohol and do not smoke – it can help if your partner does this too'

So the man could cut down weight, cut down booze and stop smoking.

And the woman can consider it?

The whole piece needs rewriting.

Why not just say women and trans men or similar?

Removing the word woman makes it all drivel.

8 out of 10 people will get pregnant within a year!

Erm.

All these orgs are relying on people applying a subtext as they print more and more nonsensical stuff.

The worlds gone bludy mad!

It doesn't say 80% of women though does it...

@titchy

You’re right - I hadn’t realised the wording. The reason I hadn’t realised though is because it’s a fact only women can get pregnant.

Couples don’t have babies any more though. They ‘welcome’ them.
Where’s the puke emoji?

@TableFlowerss the issue is the wording. The world people would denote male and female. Males can't be pregnant. Only women, yet they use the word people to be woke and inclusive of different genders whilst simultaneously eroding the identity and rights of women.
The reality is there are only 2 sexes, only one of which can become pregnant so we should use the correct bloody word. Women.

8 out of 10 women will become pregnant.

apologies I didn’t realise it was the feminist board...

In which case, I agree with you OP.

80% of women do get pregnant!

I meant 80% will after 1 year of trying.

I don’t get what the argument is? It’s right. Statistically 80% of women under 40 will get pregnant.....

20% won’t but within 2 years another 10% or so will. After 2 years of trying if a woman is for pregnant there’s likely to be an underlying issue.

cara Does being pregnant remove your shoes?

Christ on a bike - I'd better tell teen DS. When they told me "we understand more about biology than we did back when you were in school" I didn't realise this was what they meant.

Time to have the talk.

I don't want him barefoot and pregnant while he's still in his teens.

It also presumably depends who you’re having sex with (and/or assumes “having sex” is PIV). 8/10 lesbian couples aren’t going to get pregnant if they have sex for a year, are they?

So no, I don't think they mean that. I think they mean 'we're woke. Please don't hate us.'

Actually, having a further Google, I wonder whether it was to take out the word couples as in:
"More than 8 in 10 couples, where the woman is under 40, will conceive naturally"
See www.nhs.uk/conditions/infertility/diagnosis/

This caused a great deal of amusement chez nous this evening. If you're going to encourage writers to replace the word woman, you really need to employ people who also understand logic.