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My Name Is Anna. I've been called a terf - is the BBC starting to permit open discussion?

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nauticant · 08/02/2021 08:38

On at 11 this morning (Monday) on Radio 4:

My Name Is Anna. I've been called a terf

My Name Is...Anna is branded a terf – a byword for transphobia. She rejects the label and goes in search of solutions to some of the thorny issues around trans inclusion.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000s1rr

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thecompletenonsequitur · 08/02/2021 11:39

Hmmm ... (transman) Jamie can wear dresses/lipstick and still be a man. But a (born) man doing the same is a woman. (My brain is inside out at the moment, so I don´t know if I´ve explained that well).

Dalyesque · 08/02/2021 11:39

And you must believe that TWAW and TMAM. Started well but deteriorated. Could have done with more GC feminists. And prof should have been challenged on why he is using women’s facilities.

NeedToKnow101 · 08/02/2021 11:39

More gaslighting from the BBC as far as I'm concerned.

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nauticant · 08/02/2021 11:38

Unfortunately it won't be a U-turn, it'll be the turning of a supertanker.

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NeedToKnow101 · 08/02/2021 11:38

@nauticant

This explanation of why "people who can get pregnant" is the best way to go shows up the nonsense nicely.

😂😂. I want to laugh, but the time and energy these people take up...

Didn't Michfest get permanently shut down? How kind.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/02/2021 11:37

But I don't want a sop, some crumbs.

I want the BBC to let women say "We are women, you aren't!" and to cheer them on whilst doing so!

I want a woman doing a programme like this, without puctures, where tone of voice is a lot of the job, not to sound apologetic, appeasing.

It's 2021 FFS!.

TheMerrickBoy · 08/02/2021 11:35

Jamie basically claiming it's probably not transphobic to have questions, you just mustn't ask them out loud and you must arrive at the correct answer....

WinterIsGone · 08/02/2021 11:35

I think the average person would have been lost right at the beginning, and not made it to the illogical couple. Maybe it's because I'm originally a scientist not a social scientist, but I felt it needed clear definitions at the start.

Re the BBC, I notice they don't have nearly so many trans stories on the front page now.

AbsintheFriends · 08/02/2021 11:34

I think the positive thing was that the BBC allowed the programme at all.

Such is the state of things that it's progress of a sort.

SingleHandSue · 08/02/2021 11:33

That couple were annoying weren’t they?

TheMerrickBoy · 08/02/2021 11:33

Anna is wonderful!

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nauticant · 08/02/2021 11:32

Yes, that's the valuable thing the programme provided, to believe the ideology you have to put critical thinking to one side and even then it's just word soup that hurts the brain the moment you stop accepting it as gospel.

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AbsintheFriends · 08/02/2021 11:32

'It's a huge thing to think about - what makes me a woman?' laughs the patronising self-styled c*s woman, when the presenter questions the claim that a trans man can wear make up and dresses and heels and still know that they are DEFINITELY a man.

head explodes

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/02/2021 11:31

Barely scratched the surface but I suppose it's a start.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 08/02/2021 11:31

I just listened to her end with "... and that's a positive thing"

But what that was escaped me... help!?!?!

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/02/2021 11:29

The couple really are (inadvertently) making our case for us.

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nauticant · 08/02/2021 11:29

This segment is a good illustration of Orwell's "Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe them".

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Helmetbymidnight · 08/02/2021 11:28

I'm unimpressed.

Original poster
nauticant · 08/02/2021 11:27

This explanation of why "people who can get pregnant" is the best way to go shows up the nonsense nicely.

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NeedToKnow101 · 08/02/2021 11:26

It's literally the world's gone mad. I can't bear it.

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/02/2021 11:24

nauticant Grin

BitMuch · 08/02/2021 11:22

OU professor SG Chappell did a great job at NAMALTing . . .

Said "I pass myself if I don't speak". Photographed here
eicsp.org/events/event-details/784-an-evening-with-prof-sophie-grace-chappell-18-june-2020

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nauticant · 08/02/2021 11:21

Not so far BoreOfWhabylon but it's making clear that most retain their male voices.

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BoreOfWhabylon · 08/02/2021 11:20

This is going out on 'mainstream' Radio 4 , not Woman's Hour. I do hope that it is made clear that the vast majority of transwomen retain their male genitalia - this is not realised by most people who have not followed the debate closely.

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