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What do you think of terms like “boss babe”, “mom-trepeneur” or “she-EO”

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LittleRa · 06/02/2021 18:18

I saw this post shared on Reddit and got me thinking about the use of these terms. Totally agree with what she is saying.

What do you think of terms like “boss babe”, “mom-trepeneur” or “she-EO”
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JaniceBattersby · 06/02/2021 23:43

I’ve never heard anybody use any of those terms about themselves, or about any other woman, who wasn’t running an MLM. They use them as a kind of faux-feminism to encourage other women to believe that running an MLM is in some way similar to owning your own business.

So I agree that those terms should not be used but sadly the only people who use them are the very people they are targeted at.

NiceGerbil · 06/02/2021 22:54

Do women really call themselves boss babe?

How would sexual harassment work?

Alright babe!
Don't call me that please.
It's your title Confused

NiceGerbil · 06/02/2021 22:53

Boss babe is terrible

It is absolutely a way to say well I may have a successful business and have male employees but don't worry! I still know my place.

Franticbutterfly · 06/02/2021 22:25

🤢

Quaagars · 06/02/2021 22:09

Yeah, they piss me off too.
Mum'preneur?
Boss babe?!
Er, nope how about just entrepeneur or Boss.
Seriously annoying, doesn't get said about blokes, seems oddly patronising.

NiceGerbil · 06/02/2021 22:05

I think it's kind of due to two things

  • The way women are expected to behave even in professional environments is interesting. I think most men and women don't notice the dynamic it's so ingrained. While men can just make points, give an opinion, disagree etc. When women, especially young pretty ones do that, the men are taken aback. It's all this aggressive Vs assertive stuff. So you see a lot of women make their points more gently and with, it's just a thought, I could be wrong, that's really good but maybe we could try it like this etc etc. Smile smile. I'm older now and men react much better to me being opinionated direct etc then they did when I was younger.

Very related is that women aren't supposed to be ambitious, single minded hard nosed business women when they are at home with kids/ etc. There are threads on here all the time even from other women having a go at working mothers.

So all of these fucking stupid names are to soften it.

Yes I have started up a business from home while looking after children and I work hard and it's really successful but (smile smile) I'm a mumpreneur!

It's that sort of dynamic. Many women tread a fine line between getting on and not being seen as, well. Not maternal, feminine. Stepping out of their box.

They are shit terms. Minimising the success of hard working, entrepreneurial women. So as not to make men feel challenged or insecure or frankly a bit worried.

Girl boss is the one I really loath.

elfycat · 06/02/2021 20:46

I will never use those terms, or allow anyone to describe me as anything like that. I'm self-employed, sole-trader or occasionally 'The Proprietor' my DF had a business and that was his, and my DGF's before him, title I use that last on if someone is talking down to me about my little business. It is little, but it's new and growing.

If it expands to a CEO title (in my dreams, possibly nightmares) I'll have that as my title, thanks. She-EO sounds like something toddlers playing grown-ups might come up with.

EwwSprouts · 06/02/2021 20:39

Embarrassing.

KevinSausage · 06/02/2021 20:37

Never seen anyone with any credibility using any of these terms. Just MLM people or the kind of people that put on Facebook 'CEO at Stay at Home Mummy'

LittleRa · 06/02/2021 20:05

[quote MaudTheInvincible]manwhohasitall.teemill.com/collection/hers-and-his/[/quote]
I did think of a The Man Who Has It All Facebook when I read this- I like the quote that’s along the lines of

“I don’t mind the term policewomen because I know it includes both male and female officers”

  • Dave, 42, policewoman
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LApprentiSorcier · 06/02/2021 20:01

@dementedma

Mumpreneur is just hideous. I have worked in business a long time and got so pissed off when at net working events conversations would invariably lead round to children, and the “Do you have children ?”

Why is that relevant? Do men get asked that? And god help anyone who introduced me as “mum of 3 who is here today to talk about her business career” etc

I'll never forget the work training course ("wellbeing" bollocks) where I was one of two women, and the trainer kept saying 'maybe you've been in this situation as a mum and looking over at me and the other woman. I wanted to shout 'I don't even have any children, and why aren't you patronising the theoretical 'dads' too?'.
dementedma · 06/02/2021 19:52

Mumpreneur is just hideous. I have worked in business a long time and got so pissed off when at net working events conversations would invariably lead round to children, and the “Do you have children ?”

Why is that relevant? Do men get asked that? And god help anyone who introduced me as “mum of 3 who is here today to talk about her business career” etc

MaudTheInvincible · 06/02/2021 19:44

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What do you think of terms like “boss babe”, “mom-trepeneur” or “she-EO”
What do you think of terms like “boss babe”, “mom-trepeneur” or “she-EO”
What do you think of terms like “boss babe”, “mom-trepeneur” or “she-EO”
NiceViper · 06/02/2021 19:32

Agree with LApprentiSorcier

The terms 'boss' 'entrepreneur' and 'CEO' are much preferable. The other terms seem overly cutesy to me, and thus diminish female roles

LApprentiSorcier · 06/02/2021 19:22

Awful. Patronising. What's wrong with Boss, entrepreneur, CEO? None of them is a sex-specific term. If you wanted for some reason to emphasise that the person in this position was female, just prefix the word with 'female'.

StanfordPines · 06/02/2021 19:08

@LittleRa

Do you think it’s similar to women being described as, for example, a “female doctor” or a “lady doctor” as opposed to a doctor?
I would say female doctor if I specifically wanted to see a woman, but the rest of those phrases are just dreadful. Thankfully manageress seems to be used less these days but these awful terms have come in.
LittleRa · 06/02/2021 19:07

@GeidiPrimes

I quite like "shero" Smile. It's just the female version of hero without any condescending language.
Isn’t the female version of a hero a heroine?
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BSintolerant · 06/02/2021 19:05

MLM parlance. Eeeek!

GeidiPrimes · 06/02/2021 18:56

Forgot to say I dislike the terms in the OP. And "girl power". They conjure up the opposite of what they claim to be promoting.

GeidiPrimes · 06/02/2021 18:53

I quite like "shero" Smile. It's just the female version of hero without any condescending language.

WineInTheWillows · 06/02/2021 18:50

Not heard of boss babes or she-eos before. Mom-trepeneurs I've always thought of as a label for a specific stereotype- a stay at home mum who is an Avon lady or Etsy creator for pocket money, but very much as a side thing. She views being a mother as her defining characteristic and therefore inserts it into her job title.

lazylinguist · 06/02/2021 18:49

I agree with the Reddit poster. Plus those terms also have an added negative because they are so twee and cringeworthy.

78percentLindt · 06/02/2021 18:41

Yes, agree with the Reddit poster.
Its patronising twaddle.

BrandineDelRoy · 06/02/2021 18:39

I felt the same repulsion from "girl power" slogans 20 years ago.

Nohomemadecandles · 06/02/2021 18:34

The are awful. Reduces the holder of the title. Stop it!
Men don't do it unless they're using the daddy daycare nonsense.
Yes, the mlms and associated "mummies in business" love that shit.

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