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Labour MP for Leeds says he OPPOSES single-sex spaces

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 20:58

This was the question:

Do you agree that there should be sex-segregated facilities for women in hospitals, schools, refuges and prisons?

Alex Sobel, Labour MP for Leed NW said: No.

twitter.com/alexsobel/status/1356382772152184832?s=19

Labour MP for Leeds says he OPPOSES single-sex spaces
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bourbonne · 04/02/2021 22:40

@PotholeParadies

bourbonne, there are normally pros and cons to each method.

Currently though, if you send it by post to their office at House of Commons, there is the possibility that your MP is participating in debates over Teams from the other end of the country and will not lay their eyes on their own post.

Thank you. I've just done it - sent my MP an email and cc'd Keir Starmer. I had to include my postal address and phone number, which makes sense to show I'm a constituent, but is also terrifying considering the toxicity of this issue. Isn't it mad that I am literally shaking now for having entrusted my own MP's office with my opinion and home address?
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/02/2021 22:37

Man's a plonker. Either too stupid to grasp the arguments, or too terrified of his constituency workers and researchers to step out of line.

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 22:34

I think the Daily Mail, which campaigned for single-sex wards back in the days when eliminating mixed-sex wards was part of Labour's election manifesto, might like to know about Alex Sobel.

If you happen to be acquainted with any DM journalists, please contact them.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6579807/Men-self-identify-women-routinely-NHS-hospital-wards-females.html

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Sulkywoman · 04/02/2021 22:34

Hasn’t replied to some of mine...

Mollyollydolly · 04/02/2021 22:34

Email sent to Starmer and tweeted it too asking others to do the same. I'm so sick of this stuff I'll fill up every email box in the land if that's what it takes for women to be heard.

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 22:21

bourbonne, there are normally pros and cons to each method.

Currently though, if you send it by post to their office at House of Commons, there is the possibility that your MP is participating in debates over Teams from the other end of the country and will not lay their eyes on their own post.

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PurpleHoodie · 04/02/2021 22:17

Politicos in Leeds. Again.

Eowynthewarrior · 04/02/2021 22:14

How can this be someone in a mainstream political party in a western deomacracy ? Shame on Labour for allowing this and for an MP expressing such sexist views to retain the party whip. If racism was expressed in such an overt manner quite rightly there would be no place in any mainstream party

bourbonne · 04/02/2021 22:11

Ah, so emailing is best? I've never written to an MP before and for some reason pictured it all done by paper letters! I vaguely assumed their email inboxes got filled up with slacktivist spam, but I suppose they must be as able to cope with the 21st century as any workplace...

nzborn · 04/02/2021 22:08

Wow, we Women are probably 50% of the voters out there.

Sometimes l feel that there is so much anti-women sentiment out there and that's the hate crime in my opinion.

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 22:08

@Mollyollydolly

Good idea. I'm going to do it right now and cc in Keir Starmer.
Genius! Do this if you're emailing.

Even if a staffer deletes every single email so his/her employer never sees it, Keir Starmer's office can still see that x number from y constituency asked this question.

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ErrolTheDragon · 04/02/2021 22:07

The AIBU thread, if anyone wants it

To think a sitting Labour MP should operate in line with their manifesto http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4156519-To-think-a-sitting-Labour-MP-should-operate-in-line-with-their-manifesto

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 22:04

There is the possibility that if it's a big enough influx, MPs will mention it to each other on their whatsapp group and MPs who've apparently got none will wonder why.

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Mollyollydolly · 04/02/2021 22:04

Good idea. I'm going to do it right now and cc in Keir Starmer.

ChattyLion · 04/02/2021 22:04

So when he says ‘I don’t want the votes of bigots’ he really means he doesn’t want the votes of the majority of his constituents (who like most people DO want same-sex carers, single sex toilets and hospital accommodation when they are vulnerable).

OK good luck with that Confused
I’d like to see this as a question for every panellist on current affairs shows. Great idea to contact MPs

bourbonne · 04/02/2021 21:54

@PotholeParadies

Right. Coordinated campaign time.

People. How about we all email or write to our MPs with Mary's question and get their answer?

I'm up for that. I've a Labour MP, thankfully not one who makes a dick of themselves like this on Twitter so I'm hopeful they will be receptive. What puts me off is tales of young staffers destroying these kinds of letters before the MP can see them.
OhHolyJesus · 04/02/2021 21:53

Yes! We could do a doodle poll with a simple yes or no responses!

My Tory MP knows the score and whilst he will tow the party line he knows what a woman is (and I can't tell you the relief I felt when I got his response.)

Does this misogynist MP Alex Sobel have a daughter? I do feel sorry for his wife.

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 21:48

Right. Coordinated campaign time.

People. How about we all email or write to our MPs with Mary's question and get their answer?

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MiddlesexGirl · 04/02/2021 21:43

Why the heck are Labour shooting themselves in the foot like this? They've got a decent(ish) leader at last. Can't he see the damage this is doing to his party's credibility?

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PotholeParadies · 04/02/2021 21:41

@334bu

Absolutely appalling I cross posted this. Have asked for mine to be removed.
Sorry!

It's good that lots of us are noticing.

That woman who asked is an absolute heroine to phrase it so clearly and bluntly. He's nailed his colours clearly to the mast now.

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ErrolTheDragon · 04/02/2021 21:41

But there is evidence on mixed sex facilities being less safe, more prone to voyeurism etc than single. Is he ignorant or lying?

TurnsOutIQuit · 04/02/2021 21:37

Leeds is full of disgusting misogyny, from the top down.

yourhairiswinterfire · 04/02/2021 21:35

[quote LoungeLizardLhama]And as if his original tweet wasn’t bad enough, he’s doubling down on it as well. Absolute disgrace. To think he has an actual adult human female wife.
twitter.com/alexsobel/status/1356385511858966528?s=21[/quote]
Ah yes, wanting female victims of male abuse to have a safe space away from males to try and recover, and thinking vulnerable women in prison don't deserve to be LOCKED UP with rapists is sooo bigoted.

The state of his attitude, what a disgrace.

Sulkywoman · 04/02/2021 21:34

My mp who has clearly taken no notice of my regular educational emails on these topics. He has stopped even trying to reply. Labour is in the bin, if they think they can ignore the votes of women. Never again.

MrsWooster · 04/02/2021 21:34

We are going to be governed by tories for ever. This is a fucking disaster. Keir Starmer needs to climb down off the fence and sort this shit out, or check if there’s space back at the CPS for when he’s unemployable along with the rest of the party.

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