Labour MP for Leeds says he OPPOSES single-sex spaces

Whit a fuckin arse.

When are these political parties going to pull their heads out and realise they are alienating so many people.

[quote Xanthangum]Women in Switzerland only got the right to vote 50 years ago. Just saying.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-55950920[/quote]
This is interesting though. The reason - in large part - is that the Swiss population vote on everything, and at three levels - commune, canton and federal (like towns, counties and national, I suppose). Women got federal voting rights in 1971 when men as a whole across the country voted to grant them to women. Obviously, the question is - does the male population want to let women vote? It's in stark relief in Switzerland, but one wonders what the results would have been in other countries, should they have had the same political system.

As a byline, some cantons gave a cantonal vote in the late 1950s, and one famously held out until 1991 when the federal tribunal forced them to give women the vote on the basis that they were contravening federal law set in 1971.

Deleting is a shitweasel’s trick. If he regrets what he said, explain how he made a mistake and what he actually thinks. Deletion just confirms he stands by what he said and simply wants to limit the fallout.

He deleted the “no” tweet, left the one calling women bigots and hasn’t apologised.

Incredible behaviour. This is someone determined to show how they don't give one shit about Women's concerns. And his party leader seems to feel the same - I helped campaign to get our Labour MP elected in 2017 and this is all they think of me??

Deleting the tweet that people found offensive, but maintaining that any offended people are bigots is worse than just leaving the tweet.

Ah sorry, just seen that he's left the 'bigot' one up. Ok.
Even I'm running out of excuses for Starmer now.

I suppose it's too much to hope for that Starmer told him to delete it??

He deleted? I wonder if a small part of his brain is working through the actual implications of his carelessly tossed out view? One can hope.

Women in Switzerland only got the right to vote 50 years ago. Just saying.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-55950920

Why has he deleted it? Screenshots exist :/

That no had over 500 replies.

Such a weak thing to do. If he didn't read the question properly- prisons etc. Then say sorry and of course I don't believe that.

If he does believe it, tell people why.

He's a grown up politician FFS. Behave like one. Stand by your words or apologise.

It's not going to go away is it. A huge amount of people have read what he wrote.

He's deleted the 'no' tweet. The bigot one is still there. What a piece of work.

When I saw the title of this thread, I guessed it would be him. Until fairly recently he was my MP (I've moved away), and he has been consistently awful in his attitudes to women, older people, and rural people.

His constituency covers a wedge of Leeds city centre, but also a semi-rural area (which he completely fails to understand, and patronises). He encourages the ill-thought-out prejudices of the large number of students in his constituency. I assume this is just another example of him trying to please the woke, while deliberately fucking over his female constituents.

Yes Jess Phillips is such a disappointment on this. I think she is great and want her to do well but she will not stand up for women's rights even though she must be gc. I guess she would be hounded out of the party.

"Labour MP for Leeds says he OPPOSES single-sex spaces"

So brave.🙄

That Jess Philips article is 5 years old, she has since said TWAW and keeps a low profile on the issue.

He went much further than a lot of others

Most say keep separate male and female but twaw so they go with the women.

This bloke said he did not think women should have single sex prisons, sports, refuges etc etc which is a massive step further.

Also bizarrely one a lot of trans people wouldn't like as they want separate but to go into eg women's prison in self ID. They don't want everything mixed either.

So really it's not too do with trans he's more like the mras who say 'you wanted equality now I can punch you in the face'.

I made a complaint to the labour party. Not expecting them to listen given how far they've moved away from any sensible understanding of what gender and sex are. Perhaps they're so busy self identifying as the good guys that they're no longer able to see that they are the aggressors.

I am a life long labour supporter btw but not sure they have my vote next time unless they move position to something more ethical in this regard.

I just read his follow up tweet about "bigots". What a stupid, nasty, patronising, misogynistic piece of work. Wow.

I was basically new to politics and didn't believe Jess Phillips when she said in 2017 that left-wing men were the "absolute worst" sexists, it's worse than "out-and-out sexists of the right", that Labour has a misogyny problem, outwardly displaying they're for equality but don't think of women on the same level, and deligitimize their voice. I terribly naively didn't believe that men on the left could be sexist. Jess also said, “Men who want to own your equality and the things you fought for are absolutely fine if they want you to own it as well but when they want it to puff out their own chests, that is really, really, really annoying.” It has all definitely become apparent to me over the last few years.

Alex displaying here that left-wing men really think they know better than women and can decide what we are, decide what we should think, decide why we think something that they don't want us to think (because we're bigots of course!), refuse to listen to us about our own issues, speaking over us about things which affect us, think they know better than us, and feel entirely comfortable doing this in public, disregarding us and libelling us with name calling.

Well, we have our own fucking brains thanks, and it's us who has the woke-quote "lived experience" as women, not you Alex, and not any male. Wow. The fucking audacity of it. Not that I'd have thought you needed lived experience to realise what a lunatic idea it is to have mixed sexed prisons and refuges. Anyway, I suspect this may wake many people up, so glad he wrote it, spread it far and wide. Used to like this guy. Now I much prefer Jacob Rees Mogg, at least regarding Joanna Cherry and this issue, disgusted with the abuse she's received and stating "And much that I disagree with her on so many things, may I commend her courage in standing up for freedom of speech and putting forward her views, clearly in a difficult and sensitive area but one where she has a right to be heard." Just those last 10 words are a big deal for me to hear after all of this stomping on by left/liberal men. Contrast with Owen Jones also and his celebration of the treatment of Joanna Cherry by the SNP and his salivating at the prospect of action against female Labour MPs/members, including a survivor of domestic violence. Also OJ was fantasising about some how banning "transphobes" from watching a TV show he liked. This guy is 36. Anyone asked OJ if he's open to sexual relationships with transmen, self-id, pre & post "transition"? If he's not prepared to do various sexual deeds with female body parts (of which there is no such thing we're told, just like a transwoman's penis is female, a transman's vagina is male, right?), he's a Transphobe. As I've been told. Funnily enough Jess and Owen don't seem to get along, and Jess has some kind of friendship with JRM and described him as a "real gent". Also saying “[Rees-Mogg] is who he is,” she said. “People might not like that, but… I find that much more appealing than spending a week with someone who’s a fake.” About the abuse Jess had, a lot of which came from left-wing men, but was also from across the political spectrum, JRM said “This is something we should take really seriously. The abuse of women online for sharing their views is a disgrace.” “It is a real disgrace of modern society and will discourage women politicians from going into it if they are treated the way Jess is. It is deeply outrageous.” Alex here I'd say is partaking in abuse of women online, name calling us, and encouraging it.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/07/misogyny-feminism-stop-the-war-jeremy-corbyn
Jess: "
Why I won’t shut up about misogyny and the left"
"I suggested that some leftwing feminists will forgive anything if it is done by a leftwing man..."

"...In both these cases, people appeared to take leave of their senses because there was a leftwing man to protect. “Oh, sweetheart, don’t you realise the cause is more important? Take this one for the team.” I know this happens in all sections of society; the hard left just seem to have a special talent for it.

I believe the Labour leadership team do want to fight for equality for women but they think it is a happy byproduct of the cause, something that will trickle down without actually being campaigned for. And because of this they could potentially turn a blind eye to terrible misogyny in some of the causes they support. What worries me about this is that good feminists might turn a blind eye too, for the sake of their man."

I absolutely refuse to have this issue sneeringly reduced to the suggestion that it's just all about toilets and going to pee - but one question - which unisex toilets have we always had? I've only seen unisex toilets as a single room containing its own handwashing facilities, with the door onto an open corridor of the building, the toilets not being in a shared room/cubicles in a room at all. Why is he even bringing that up and comparing it to prisons, refuges, hospital wards, if that's what he's doing?

Is he ignorant or lying?

He's an MP .... I think we know which!

So Labour has lost the Scottish vote, the Northern vote and the women's vote.