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AIBU Any energy for more?

112 replies

Langrycleg · 03/02/2021 17:46

After the demise of no 4 thread, does anyone think it’s worth reviving or should we rephrase the question? 96%- 4% at the end I think.

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Winesalot · 04/02/2021 09:39

Actually, we do need them on a thread especially for attacks in single sex spaces.

One regular poster has been asking for evidence. And does keep implying that it never happens. It is just feminists making up stories.

Coffeeandcocopops · 04/02/2021 09:25

The thread last night was targeted by posters that wanted it taken down.

The links to abuse in female toilets were eye opening. These need saving somewhere so that next time someone says it never happens they can be directed to a thread or folder?

gardenbird48 · 04/02/2021 09:20

Glinner’s on aibu about requesting same sex provision - mentions Clare Dimyon :-)))

Biscuitsanddoombar · 04/02/2021 09:05

@picklemewalnuts

You got further than me, wines. I only started this morning.

I haven't followed all of them. I'd be tempted to give it a rest. A continuation will call back the same handful of negative aggressive people to continue the bun fight. I'd have a rest, then restart in a month.

Bank your winnings, then try again.

Agree. Hopefully it’ll made a lot of people think & question a lot more
IWillSqueakAgain · 04/02/2021 09:04

Dog peeing AIBU are very common though.

This random lets their dog pee on my grass every morning gets a resounding YANBU.

IWillSqueakAgain · 04/02/2021 09:03

Not what you meant?

IWillSqueakAgain · 04/02/2021 09:03

The dog peeing would still be able to sniff out whose a woman and whose a man.

NotBadConsidering · 04/02/2021 09:02

At the end of the now deleted thread someone had asked for one example of a transwoman harming women/girls in a changing room etc. I posted links of several examples that really offer a stark demonstration of what can happen. Wonder if that is what tipped the monitors over the edge [muses 🤔].

I would also say that if Langrycleg is indeed LangCleg then, come on, Lang, surely you must have been able to come up with a better username than that!

Whatwouldscullydo · 04/02/2021 09:01

I just came here to say I couldn't find the other thread figured it might get deleted. What with the masks slipping and showing theor true colours amd the incredible hatred fir women.

I'm.sure it was quite valuable while it was up.

prisencolinensinainciusol2 · 04/02/2021 08:57

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DeaconBoo · 04/02/2021 08:56

I agree there are lots of other issues that shed light on the situation. Clare Dimyon's story really shocked me and the nhs's continued comparing it to racism etc.
Also the judge's statement in the Maya case that believing in two fixed sexes wasn't worthy of respect in dignified society etc.

People still think this is fighting between two groups on Twitter, not the policy of the nhs or employment law.

nauticant · 04/02/2021 08:53

Yes, the "they just want to pee" derailing there always is is beyond tedious.

Quite: twitter.com/walterneff7/status/1159533644215738374

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 08:47

On this one there was lots of confusion about transmen having penises and whether they would be dangerous etc. lots of misinformation. As usual.

Some of the recounting of the experiences of assault and voyeurism by males in women’s facilities seem to trigger the ‘must get this deleted’ response. They don’t want those posts to stand ... ever. Actual experiences blow the line of ‘a fantasy to ban women who are just different’ completely away.

FemaleAndLearning · 04/02/2021 08:43

I managed to see the thread last night. It was interesting particularly dome if the language and complete lack of empathy towards female victims if male violence.

I think it will be best to follow it up with another question but in a different area like AIBU to expect my daughter to compete against males in female sports. But worded better. Not sure if that has been happening in the UK but I'm sure Fair Play for Women will have info.
I think those who were interested in the question will have come and hopefully learnt something, but for those who didn't they will skip by the question. Let's open people's eyes to other issues?

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 08:40

I too think it needs a break. But, it needs to be done again in a month or so.

It really allowed some women a vehicle to tell us about their abuse by males in female toilets and changing rooms. Including a heart breaking on about an 11 year old raped in the ladies at a national trust place.

ChancesWhatChances · 04/02/2021 08:34

Sorry to derail, I’d just begun reading the thread when it was zapped. But I always think there needs to be energy for more discussion around this, especially an open and frank discussion where there’s no fear to use plain language. If women as a whole lose the energy for this we will end up being erased.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 08:34

I agree with pickle

picklemewalnuts · 04/02/2021 08:32

You got further than me, wines. I only started this morning.

I haven't followed all of them. I'd be tempted to give it a rest. A continuation will call back the same handful of negative aggressive people to continue the bun fight. I'd have a rest, then restart in a month.

Bank your winnings, then try again.

Terranean · 04/02/2021 08:30

I was working on a reply to someone saying transmen with a penis would be more dangerous than transwomen without one.
People don’t know what these surgeries involve and how rare they are.

They also need to see Lily Madigan at school picture and the reports on school sexual attacks even before mixed sex toilets were trendy.

I’m in awe at you women!

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 08:28

And the feathers got very ruffled.

But there were really important experiences being added from victims of these crimes that I had not seen on the previous threads. Of it actually happening. I think it must have been decided then to target it, to make so many delectable posts that it would be pulled.

Because no one wants to have that evidence documented. It needs to remain a frothed up dream of rabid feminists, not a growing list of people where it has happened and been ignored or not released to the mainstream media. Can’t have that at all!!!

Floisme · 04/02/2021 08:22

It's been amazing seeing the conversation out into 'the open air' - fabulous work and thank you, it must have been exhausting.

I was starting to wonder if it was time for a different topic, simply because I think people often scroll past thread titles they've seen before. (Well I do.) But if it's still ruffling feathers then that's a reason to keep it going if possible.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/02/2021 08:20

The other 4 threads look to be still up.

Winesalot · 04/02/2021 08:14

pickle

I got to around 00:40 last night and had to sleep. Can I ask if you’d gotten past there? Had the tone improved?

There was a new poster directly calling people bigots and shouting the mantra last I saw.

picklemewalnuts · 04/02/2021 08:14

The most recent one went about an hour ago.

prisencolinensinainciusol2 · 04/02/2021 08:13

I'm a bit confused (no change there)

Are the four threads (being discussed here) still up for anyone to read or have they all been removed by the management?

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