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Worrying reports from Uighur women - content warning, extremely upsetting

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ArabellaScott · 03/02/2021 09:45

Do please avoid this if you are likely to be upset - I am finding the story very hard to read.

Disturbing and horrible allegations coming from women detained in China. 'rape has become a culture'

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-55794071

Is there anything at all that can be done about this?

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Andante57 · 04/02/2021 19:23

Where is there outcry? All the usual public figures that love to condemn atrocities appear to have lost their voices

Yes, where is Emma Thompson for example and other actors who are vocal on other issues?
UK universities accept money from China so they will keep quiet.
The UN isn’t fit for purpose.

Catmaiden · 04/02/2021 19:17

Used my sm to re tweet etc this. Disgusting. Horrible to read about, disgusted it's not really "an issue" Angry cos it's yet again just Women, innit Angry

NiceGerbil · 04/02/2021 15:00

I'm very pleased to see a strong reaction from USA and GB governments (and possibly more but not reported).

LizzieSiddal · 04/02/2021 12:44

It’s does. I just saw 2 women talking about their experience, it’s was so horrific I had to turn it off. The World must do something.

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ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 11:17

Yes, glad it's being discussed, although the whole thing just looks more frightening the more I look into it.

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LizzieSiddal · 04/02/2021 10:43

They are discussing this in Parliament now- it’s on BBC news channel. It’s absolutely harrowing but thank goodness it’s getting publicity.

UppityPuppity · 04/02/2021 08:51

Thanks for posting the www.saveuighur.org/83-companies-linked-to-uighur-forced-labor/ link. I have signed up.

I have written to my MP about it to ask what the government is doing - what it is trying to get the international community to do and to ask for all companies involved in slave labour to be sanctioned. It is truly shocking.

There have been international condemnation and boycotts on atrocities/abuses by countries before - just on weaker countries I suppose.

icanboogieboogiewoogie · 04/02/2021 08:48

The US condemned it this morning. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55930344

CandyLeBonBon · 04/02/2021 08:32

I feel so powerless. Those poor women.

lightand · 04/02/2021 08:03

The camps have been in existence since 2017.
The world has hardly been in a rush to aid them.

lightand · 04/02/2021 08:00

I have been seeing occasional articles for months, if not longer.
But they come and go.
Maybe this time something will happen? Not convinced.

Whether anyone likes it or not, the impetus normally comes form the US. Whether Biden will do something, I have no idea.
Has he mentioned anything yet?

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ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 07:56

This is horrific, Pics. The mind shies away from even thinking about it.

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PicsInRed · 04/02/2021 07:52

There will be confrontation. It's inevitable and only a matter of time.

The good news is they've foolishly taken on India nothing like a war with 2 fronts which means India is more likely to be on the allied side when the time comes.

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ArabellaScott · 04/02/2021 07:48

Pics it's absolutely chilling to see it laid out like that. I suppose the only recourse beyond boycott atrempts is via the UN, who seem to be complicit. I do fear for global stability when I consider things like this. Does the world stand by while atrocities are committed or is there a way to challenge them without actual confrontation? China are not exactly open to discussion.

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PicsInRed · 04/02/2021 07:29

@Rupertbeartrousers

75 years after the liberation of Auschwitz and this is where the world is SadSadSad
Nailed it.

The Nazi regime were seen by some and treated by many as a respectable - if difficult - regime at the beginning but we all came to learn precisely what monstrosities they were capable of, and had committed on a massive scale.

It was widely known that Jewish people (and others) were robbed of their property, imprisoned, murdered and deported to "work camps" and there were widespread rumours of death camps. We now know that sexual abuse was also employed on an industrial scale - women used as "rewards" for non Jewish prisoners who behaved themselves. Repeatedly raped.

Germany were too big to challenge, so we delayed until they got even bigger and stronger.

It's exactly the same now and yet again we stand by and do nothing.

megletthesecond · 04/02/2021 07:16

I've followed Emma Reilly on Twitter and signed up for emails from the Save Uighur group.

unwashedanddazed · 03/02/2021 22:52

I feel heartbroken that these women feel ashamed (as stated in the article), when the reality is they are astoundingly brave for speaking out. In their own names. Truly heroic.

I feel as helpless as the rest of you here, but I take heart that the BBC is writing about this in such detail, with the voices of survivors being centred and endorsed. Stoking mainstream outrage may be the only way to get cowardly governments to take action.

BelleHathor · 03/02/2021 22:42

@ArabellaScott

Christ almighty, BelleHathor.

Twitter of Emma Reilly, the lawyer above, brave woman:

twitter.com/intent/follow?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fthreadreaderapp.com%2F&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&screen_name=EmmaReillyTweet&tw_p=followbutton

They're trying to keep it covered up. The UN is supporting and enabling genocide.

It's one of the most haunting things happening right now in front of our faces, I'm not even religious but after seeing some of the things happening I pray for some countries to please do something. To the PP it sounds like a good idea to DM Maajid. Some links on the situation 13 tonnes of hair taken from China’s Uyghur Muslims has ‘Nazi resonance jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/13-tonnes-of-hair-taken-from-chinas-uyghur-muslims-has-nazi-resonance/ Organ Harvesting bylinetimes.com/2019/11/26/more-uyghur-horror-harvesting-hundreds-of-thousands-of-organs-from-mass-murder/ AI Targeting bylinetimes.com/2019/11/18/beyond-orwells-worst-nightmares-how-china-uses-artificial-intelligence-to-commit-genocide/ Forced Sterilisation apnews.com/article/269b3de1af34e17c1941a514f78d764c UK mps debate uighur e-petition m.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Jw-W-B0Q0

Maajid Nawaz YouTube Videos
m.youtube.com/watch?v=2OMYVASq7U8
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OVTdQlyxvqA
m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uyzyyxdx-hE
m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yev7h6aDyc

PaleBlueMoonlight · 03/02/2021 22:32

That was really hard to read. I have no idea what to do with it.

NiceGerbil · 03/02/2021 22:10

Thank you for posting OP.

This is the sort of thing where the international community must must do something. But they rarely do

babba2014 · 03/02/2021 20:04

None of the current Arab countries are actually led by Muslims,.according to the Qur'an hence the don't care @ginghamstarfish Their game play currently is the fully Satanist agenda going full speed ahead. This is hard for even Muslims to understand but it's in detail in the Hadith. They will receive their punishment eventually, also described in the hadith. We can't expect anything of such people. They make their own laws.

The solution is change but no one wants to go ahead with it so despite the Holocaust we still find ourselves here. But we can try as individuals. Never lose hope in the few.

SlightlyJaded · 03/02/2021 19:59

Thank you for this OP. It is beyond horrendous.

I feel helpless but may try contacting Maajid Nawaaz via Twitter to ask him if he is progressing any campaigns/petitions on this, and is there any way I can support anything he is doing? Yes, he is just a journalist, but he has clearly staked his position and he has a voice on a National Radio station and can use his platform to be a 'bit' heard. Perhaps if he gets enough support behind him, he will be galvanised into applying pressure on parliament to act. LBC journo's are quite influential as journos go.... It's somewhere to start.

icanboogieboogiewoogie · 03/02/2021 19:38

It's horrific. I read this this morning. I emailed my MP but it feels pretty pointless.

Nothappytohelp · 03/02/2021 19:24

I braced myself before reading and still haven't been able to make it to the end. It's so hard to comprehend the sheer scale and depths of the atrocities being described.