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The new Labour Trans Equality group is asking for help in defining transphobia - maybe your would like to help them?

39 replies

stumbledin · 01/02/2021 19:40

As a struggling new group - Labour Trans Equality (LTE) - is asking for help in defining transphobia so that it can be agreed across the Labour Party and affiliated groups.

I am sure many mumsnetters will be able to offer them advice on ensuring that the Equality part - ie equality being equal for all - is properly defined.

labourtransequality.org.uk/the-definition-of-transphobia/

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EdgeOfACoin · 01/02/2021 21:02

How strange. It's almost like definitions... matter.

Floisme · 01/02/2021 21:01

Is this the group that - if memory serves me correctly - accused LGBT Labour of transphobia and broke away?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 01/02/2021 20:55

If tell them not to do as the SNP have allowed to be done in their name.

If you're going to nail your colours to that mast have the decency to take hammer and nails and do the job properly!

wheresmycrown · 01/02/2021 20:49

Thanks Labour for clarifying how unelectable you really are

Vermeil · 01/02/2021 20:41

‘‘Claiming there is conflict between trans peoples rights and women’s rights or other communities rights is transphobic”

That just sounds like a recipe for massive underserved privilege, not basic rights or equality at all.

Eowynthewarrior · 01/02/2021 20:37

What I don’t understand is how the concept of a phobia which is a highly distressing mental health condition that can seriously affect someone’s life eg Agraphobia or arachnophobia can be applied to a different context meaning something different ? Presumably the arachnophobic or agraphobic is protected under the equality act as a result of their phobic health condition. Isn’t using the term transphobic belittling those people with phobic conditions. Viewed like this it’s pretty offensive as a term given how many people experience mental illness related to phobic conditions

MichelleofzeResistance · 01/02/2021 20:29

Transphobia is anything disliked by someone who feels they are making use of social power by saying so.

Gncq · 01/02/2021 20:18

^haha wow that 133 itemised list above is something to behold!Grin

Melroses · 01/02/2021 20:18
^ This
Gncq · 01/02/2021 20:17

Human life on earth is transphobic

Rubidium · 01/02/2021 20:13

Everything is transphobic

PartyofPun · 01/02/2021 19:59

“Claiming there is conflict between trans peoples rights and women’s rights or other communities rights is transphobic”

“Talking about trans people in a negative manner at any time...”

But no definition of what trans is, what a woman is or what a man is.

That page is insane.

Wearywithteens · 01/02/2021 19:52

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 01/02/2021 19:51

**Deliberately misgendering trans people at any time by calling trans women, “men” or trans men “women”, or non-binary people “men” or “women” is transphobic.
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So, accurately sexing someone is transphobic?

That explains why I got into trouble at work for discussing a patient who was male but identified as female. Their male sex was relevant to their health issue, I had to seek advice about part of their treatment plan, but, a colleague said I was transphobic for...well...talking about her prostate that was giving her gyp.

It's insane.