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Humza Yousaf and Scottish Hate Crime Bill

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Pinkfreesias · 01/02/2021 18:51

Humza Yousaf, the Scottish Justice Secretary, has just tweeted that the recent amendments tabled on the Freedom Of Expression (Hate Crime) Bill will not now be moved on. Hugely disappointing for women speaking out might still be labelled hate criminals here in Scotland. And I can't help wondering if it's somehow linked to Joanna Cherry's sacking.

mobile.twitter.com/HumzaYousaf/status/1356299644553322497

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lightand · 28/02/2021 16:10

@NonnyMouse1337 Thanks. The thread just suddenly finished so I wasnt sure what had happened.

highame · 28/02/2021 16:07

I wonder if all the shenanigans at the moment will make any difference. Maybe there'll be a re-think to make it look like women are being listened to?

NonnyMouse1337 · 28/02/2021 16:02

@lightand

what was the outcome of the bill please? Or has it all not finished yet?
Not finished yet. There will need to be a vote on the Bill by the MSPs in parliament.
lightand · 28/02/2021 15:52

what was the outcome of the bill please?
Or has it all not finished yet?

NonnyMouse1337 · 18/02/2021 23:24

This is the Justice Committee page with information on the Call for Views on the four types of amendments to choose from.

www.parliament.scot/parliamentarybusiness/CurrentCommittees/117116.aspx

334bu · 18/02/2021 22:14

mobile.twitter.com/SP_Justice/status/1362372580884250624

Link embedded in here. It is only a call for comment on possible amendments to a particular section of Billl
You might also check out Murray Blackburn Mackenzie on Twitter they have done a lot of work on this

greatpurplepolkadots · 18/02/2021 21:46

@334bu

www.heraldscotland.com/news/19100424.last-minute-plea-help-fixing-snps-hate-crime-bill/?ref=twtrec

Last minute call for evidence

Do you have a link to the survey? I'm struggling to find it.
Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud · 13/02/2021 09:08

[quote Igneococcus]Today in the Times, letter from churches to Yousaf:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6eb53dfe-6d81-11eb-acad-72136628cce4?shareToken=b79515eb8cacd83444cf00f43207c28c[/quote]
Thanks for the share token! I'm surprised that more Muslim women are not asking how it will impact upon their rights to not be able to discuss single sex spaces.

Eg. There is a thread I was reading on ovarit (I sometimes lurk there) about how a Muslim student had deliberately selected a female only house so that she didn't have to wear her head covering at home, but someone was in the house who presented as male, but declared themselves to be she/her. The Muslim continued to wear her cover, but was concerned that this would be read as "misgendering" by not acting in the way she would have otherwise done in single sex accomodation. Fortunately, the person she was sharing with didn't realise that she had changed her behaviour based on perceiving this person as male.

Igneococcus · 13/02/2021 06:48

Today in the Times, letter from churches to Yousaf:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6eb53dfe-6d81-11eb-acad-72136628cce4?shareToken=b79515eb8cacd83444cf00f43207c28c

littlbrowndog · 08/02/2021 12:38

From Johanna Lamont

Humza Yousaf and Scottish Hate Crime Bill
Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 07/02/2021 23:01

Ahh but he does what he’s telt littl that seems to be the only current criteria for SNP MSPs

littlbrowndog · 07/02/2021 22:51

And the totally useless yousaf humza. That man really is being paid well above his intellect

Humza Yousaf and Scottish Hate Crime Bill
littlbrowndog · 07/02/2021 22:49

Yes yousetthetone

It’s strange that. Can’t think why. 😖

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 07/02/2021 22:45

mobile.twitter.com/RBFMaguire/status/1358487542954414080

Ruth Maguire speaking up

Humza Yousaf and Scottish Hate Crime Bill
Merename · 07/02/2021 21:22

@Whatsnewpussyhat

It isn't too complex. They just don't want to to because men don't like being told to stop abusing women.
Agreed. Even most of the men who don’t abuse women don’t care enough to do much to help stop it.
ArabellaScott · 07/02/2021 20:17

From ForWomenScotland on 'sex and the hate crime bill'

forwomen.scot/07/02/2021/sex-and-the-hate-crime-bill/?fbclid=IwAR09JeDS49_sN-dLaT7HoWzl2agyu0pQDt9QeKFMf9qmXSGcvnA2IZ5P7bA

Whatsnewpussyhat · 07/02/2021 19:14

It isn't too complex. They just don't want to to because men don't like being told to stop abusing women.

YouSetTheTone · 07/02/2021 18:30

Saw this on Twitter today:

Why is it considered too complex to protect women from hate crimes but not too complex to protect men who believe they’re women from hate crimes?

ArabellaScott · 06/02/2021 17:51

@Whatsnewpussyhat

I simply don't understand why this is still being pushed ahead. This man who was the transport minister and has no legal background, is now being allowed to push these ridiculous, dangerous laws.

The reaction from everyone except shouty activists on Twitter is fuck off and don't be so stupid.

He was a totally shite Transport Minister, fwiw.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/02/2021 17:49

Thank you MBM!

littlbrowndog · 06/02/2021 17:36

Why are they the elected MSPS afraid to stand up for the women that live in our country

WHEEST

littlbrowndog · 06/02/2021 17:35

Thank you for doing this

Closed doors.

Stonewall able to intervene

unbelievable behaviour from Scottish parliament and elected MSPS

MichelleofzeResistance · 06/02/2021 16:45

Should that happen, it would mean in effect that MSPs had responded to experiencing the storm that broke over the stage two amendments by asking ordinary people, mainly women, to be braver than their elected representatives

Exactly this.

MurrayBlackburnMackenzie · 06/02/2021 16:27

In case of interest, we've just published this note setting out what happened with the amendments to the hate crime bill on freedom of expression and the events that led to all of them being withdrawn the night before MSPs debated them:

mbmpolicy.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/the-retreat-on-freedom-of-expression.-a-story-in-four-parts-1.pdf

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