Joanna Cherry (SNP) sacked

Westminster is very far from irrelevant and clearly is relevant when it suits her.

Glad to see that Ova.
The usual suspects will be demanding that she steps down.

News from Joanna

Thank you

5:09 'Ultimately, just don't be a Jeremy Hunt'

In here, Hubert.

reading out confidential and sensitive letters from your constituents in a public video whilst making fun of their trauma and calling them derogatory names

Does anyone have a link for this?

It's pretty clear that Joanna Cherry, as a high profile, high calibre Westminster MP, is regarded as a threat to the leadership.

Her work on Brexit and her professional experience give her political weight that few MPs from any party possess, never mind the SNP.

And another article in the Times, I can barely keep up today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/aecdadbc-67a6-11eb-908c-00b0fcb974f6?shareToken=33a1dd4b2f3fba612085ea27923a9dac

At this point I couldn't give a damn about "left" or "right". That's not the current battle. It's liberal versus authoritarian

Yes, society has moved beyond such narrow affiliations now. Though many still cling to then for identity, and out of habit.

reading out confidential and sensitive letters from your constituents in a public video whilst making fun of their trauma and calling them derogatory names

God, yes, I'd forgotten about that. Charming. I suppose some MPs forget their obligations and responsibilities.

Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but are the recent influx of SNP resignations largely because of the trans stuff, e.g. Sturgeon's vidéo, the removal of Cherry, etc.? Or is there something else going on?

At this point I couldn't give a damn about "left" or "right". That's not the current battle. It's liberal versus authoritarian.

We can go back left-v-right arguments about optimum tax rates or immigration levels when we've re-established that people can acknowledge sex without being fired.

Shocking to see how the cancel culture is going.

Say what you like about JRM, but he understands the importance of free speech and of respecting those you disagree with

I agree.

Joanna cherry replied to a tweet - someone tweeted wondering about the 30 Yr old man who's been arrested, and who his associates will turn out to be. She replied 'watch this space'.

Blooming heck

In The National today: "Joanna Cherry: Attempts to smear or intimidate those who want to debate policy won’t make us stronger":

www.thenational.scot/news/19066835.removal-snp-front-bench-smacks-double-standards/

It's obviously a personal account -- but still a more coherent, internally consistent, and believable explanation of events surrounding the "sacking" than anything I've seen so far from the SNP officially or via the usual anonymous SNP Westminster "insiders".

We unfortunately don't learn what "unacceptable behaviour" is (1) bad enough to be sacked from the SNP front bench but not suspended from the party AND (2) WORSE than (just for example) reading out confidential and sensitive letters from your constituents in a public video whilst making fun of their trauma and calling them derogatory names or launching a public campaign to smear and defund a gay rights group or announcing to the press that your leader promises to pass a piece of proposed legislation that's still out for public consultation. We're not alone in the dark though, because according to this article, no one has yet officially told Cherry what that behaviour was either.

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How sad that it would not be in the least surprising if someone connected with such political parties were discovered to be guilty of this threatening behaviour. Startling and distressing how they (and many others of course) have become quite radicalised by this ideology. Almost to science denier level. And, salivating with pleasure from barking it at women who are 'defending (reality of) biology' as Amnesty postured was an inherently hateful stance.

What have things come to?

Joanna cherry replied to a tweet - someone tweeted wondering about the 30 Yr old man who's been arrested, and who his associates will turn out to be. She replied 'watch this space'.

👀

I am mentally running through who is active in the SNP, 30ish and male...

Joanna cherry replied to a tweet - someone tweeted wondering about the 30 Yr old man who's been arrested, and who his associates will turn out to be. She replied 'watch this space'.

My guess is that means he isn't just a random unknown with a twitter account.

It would be really bad law if identical speech could be considered hate speech or not hate speech depending on if the motivation was religious or secular. So I'll be v interested to see the clause when the next stage happens.

Yousaf tweeted this about the clause on freedom of expression regarding religion (taken from the screen shot in this thread):

"For example FOE for religion includes 'expressions of antipathy, dislike or insult towards religion' ".

Here he is talking about a clause which allows people to insult religions.